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Savage: Impeach Bush over immigration plan
WND ^ | 1-12-04 | N/A

Posted on 01/13/2004 5:54:13 AM PST by JustPiper

Conservative talk-radio star, author says amnesty is betrayal of country

In the latest indication President Bush is having problems with his conservative core political constituency, Michael Savage, one of talk radio's biggest stars, tonight called for the impeachment of President Bush over his plans to legalize millions of illegal aliens.

"This is the worst betrayal of our country in my lifetime," said Savage, whose program is heard on more than 350 stations with an audience reaching some 6 million. His book, "The Savage Nation," last year was No. 1 on the New York Times best-seller's list for five weeks. His follow-up, "The Enemy Within," out just one week, is already No. 8 on the list. Both were published by WND Books.

President Bush

Tonight Savage called Bush a liberal and described him as part of the "enemy within" that is destroying the nation.

Savage created the phrase "compassionate conservative" in 1994, a term picked up by Bush during his presidential campaign – a campaign supported by Savage.

"This is much more serious than dropping your pants for an intern," said Savage. "This is a policy that represents a danger to national security."

Savage is hardly alone in his strong feelings of opposition to Bush's proposal to offer legal status to illegal immigrants. A new ABC News poll finds 52 percent of the nation opposes an amnesty program for illegal immigrants from Mexico, while 57 percent oppose one for illegal immigrants from other countries. Both results are roughly the same as when the administration floated the idea two-and-a-half years ago.

But today in Monterrey, Mexico, Bush reaffirmed his support of the proposal, despite its unpopularity at home. He said it could help illegal immigrants "leave the shadows and have an identity."

At a joint press conference with Mexican President Vicente Fox, Bush warned that his government will not allow the existence in the United States of an underclass of illegal immigrants, but claimed again his proposal is not an amnesty. Amnesty, he said, would only promote the violation of the law and perpetuate illegal immigration.

Bush said his immigration proposal would benefit both the United States and Mexico as it recognizes the contribution of thousands of honest Mexicans who work in the United States.

For his part, Fox embraced Bush's proposal.

"What else can we wish?" Fox said at the news conference with the president.

In the U.S., the latest poll on the controversy shows at least twice as many Americans "strongly" oppose the proposal as strongly support it.

Opposition peaks in Bush's own party: Fifty-eight percent of Republicans oppose his immigration proposal for Mexicans, compared with 50 percent of Democrats. For illegal immigrants other than Mexicans, 63 percent of Republicans are opposed.

Bush reportedly will disclose more details of the plan in his State of the Union address Jan. 20.

Meanwhile, the National Border Patrol Council, which represents all 9,000 of the Border Patrol's non-supervisory agents, has told its members to challenge President Bush´s proposed guest-worker program, calling it a "slap in the face to anyone who has ever tried to enforce the immigration laws of the United States," the Washington Times reported today.

The agents were told in a letter from Vice President John Frecker that the proposal offered last week during a White House press conference "implies that the country really wasn't serious about" immigration enforcement in the first place.

"Hey, you know all those illegal aliens you risked 'life and limb' to apprehend? FAH-GED-ABOWD-IT," said Frecker, a veteran Border Patrol agent. "President Bush has solved the problem. Don't be confused and call this an 'amnesty,' even though those who are here illegally will suddenly become legal and will be allowed to stay here. The president assures us that it's not an amnesty," he said.

Last week Bush proposed the sweeping immigration changes that would allow the 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens thought to be in the United States to remain in the country if they have a job and apply for a guest-worker card. The immigrants could stay for renewable three-year periods, after which they could apply for permanent legal residence.

Savage cited a new report published in the City Journal by the Manhattan Institute suggesting there is a major crime wave in the U.S. caused by illegal immigration.

"Some of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens," the report charges. "Yet in cities where the crime these aliens commit is highest, the police cannot use the most obvious tool to apprehend them: their immigration status. In Los Angeles, for example, dozens of members of a ruthless Salvadoran prison gang have sneaked back into town after having been deported for such crimes as murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and drug trafficking. Police officers know who they are and know that their mere presence in the country is a felony. Yet should a cop arrest an illegal gang-banger for felonious reentry, it is he who will be treated as a criminal, for violating the LAPD’s rule against enforcing immigration law."

The situation is similar, the report says in New York, Chicago, San Diego, Austin and Houston. These "sanctuary policies" generally prohibit city employees, including the cops, from reporting immigration violations to federal authorities, says the report.

"These people are destroying America," said Savage. "That's all I have to say on the subject. But you can talk about it. Talk about it while you can – while America is still a free country, because it's not going to last."


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To: exmarine
You want victory on your little quibble, okay. Feel better now? Doesn't change the fact it's law.

If you're arguing it's law, then maybe you can offer some support for that argument.

When you say it's in the US Code, you'd better be ready to start citing Title and Section.

Let's put it this way: if you had been in court, making your argument as you did, you'd be in jail for contempt of court right now.

Argue law at your peril--it's rather obvious that you do not know whereof you speak.

761 posted on 01/13/2004 3:46:35 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: riri
Do you normally talk to yourself in the third person?
762 posted on 01/13/2004 3:47:26 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Maybe I'll just come to Montana. Completely off topic but..

My daughter has a "Leap Pad" and it has a map that breaks down the states by population. It always says--"Montana--6 people per square mile"

When we are driving my husband and I always say "Hit Montana again" cause we just like to hear that.

763 posted on 01/13/2004 3:49:04 PM PST by riri
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To: exmarine
Cite the Title and Section, it's a simple request, without the need to go on the defensive over.
764 posted on 01/13/2004 3:49:09 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: Marine Inspector
If being a liar doesn't matter, I guess we have nothing else to discus.

I don't think you have enough information to call me a liar! Judge Roy Moore stated that the Declaration was organic law in the US code and I believe him. He Was chief justice in Alabama and certainly would not make a public statement like that if it were not a fact. I took his word for it and if there is no intent, then it can't be a lie. Lying requires INTENT. Today, I read it there on line, though I can't cite a section becuase I believe section numbers, etc. may (I don't know) be reserved for positive law.

Nevertheless, It has now been proven beyond doubt on this thread that is is organic law. It was ratified by the continental Congress in 1776.

Before you call people liars, you should get your facts in order. Now get lost - I'm done with you. I don't like harrassment. Get out of my face.

765 posted on 01/13/2004 3:50:55 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: riri
Heh... My next door neighbor is 7 miles from me :)
766 posted on 01/13/2004 3:51:06 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: JustPiper
"This is the worst betrayal of our country in my lifetime...This is much more serious than dropping your pants for an intern," said Savage. "This is a policy that represents a danger to national security."

Only the most truly delusion Bush apologists can refute Savage on these points with a clear conscience.

769 posted on 01/13/2004 3:54:31 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: BigSkyFreeper
See my most recent posts to the other harrassers. Point is over. Move on. I will not address another comment on this issue. Talk amongst yourselves - I don't care.
770 posted on 01/13/2004 3:55:03 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: MattAMiller
Bush tried. But it was defeated in Congress.

He didn't try very hard and he didn't use any pressure for judicial nominees. He's caved on education, trashed the Constitution with CFR, and moved us closer to full Socialized Medicine than Hillary ever dreamed.

Sooner or later even those in deepest denial will have to admit we,ve been sold out.


No Blood for Lettuce!

Click here and here for lists of crimes committed by illegal aliens.

771 posted on 01/13/2004 3:56:54 PM PST by putupon (No Blood for Lettuce)
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To: exmarine
OK, those of us who've requested your cooperation will conclude that you don't have a clue as to what you're talking about and leave you to your self.
772 posted on 01/13/2004 3:57:44 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: philosofy123
A gang of car thieves go around steeling cars and ripping them apart and selling the parts.

Comprable to illegal immigration only in the sense that they are both illegal.

The police decided instead to allow the gangs to continue on stealing cars on the condition that they would have to report the number of car parts, and charge sales tax.

It's more like letting them go as long as they become legitimate auto parts dealers.

773 posted on 01/13/2004 3:58:16 PM PST by MattAMiller
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Conclude what you want. I won't lose any sleep over it.
774 posted on 01/13/2004 3:58:53 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
"Clinton's sale of hi-tech weaponry to China, who also plans to destroy us, is the worst. But bending over for Vincente is pretty close. The destruction of our borders is the end of our nation, whether the pom pom girls can see it or not."

They won't because they drink from the same hypnotic trough of kool-ade as the Lanny Davises, Victor Kambers, and all of Hollywood -- except it's just way at the other end.

775 posted on 01/13/2004 4:00:08 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: exmarine
Illegal immigration, serious problem that it is, is not a foreign invasion.
776 posted on 01/13/2004 4:00:12 PM PST by MattAMiller
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To: exmarine
I guarantee you I won't lose any sleep over this either.
777 posted on 01/13/2004 4:00:35 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: MattAMiller
No, tell that to the ranchers in southern Arizona.
778 posted on 01/13/2004 4:01:31 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: riri
Take a look at the country!!! It is a much different place than 1986.

What specific differences do you have in mind?

779 posted on 01/13/2004 4:04:51 PM PST by MattAMiller
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To: putupon
He's caved on education

And what good did it do him? I'm a substitute teacher and I can assure you that teachers, schools and school districts are hopping mad about the arbitrary nature of the "No Child Left Behind" Act. They should be; it's a lousy law. They blame President Bush, while forgetting that Teddy Kennedy's staffers wrote the damned thing.

780 posted on 01/13/2004 4:07:34 PM PST by arm958
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