Can I join? p-marlowe
Please resubmit when your theology improves. drstevej
Wise call your most high fishiness
Posted on 12/10/2003 4:11:16 AM PST by drstevej
Exurge, Calvinisti, et judica causam tuam...
Arise (some mss read Swarm), O Calvinists, and plead your cause. The doctrines of grace are mightily assailed by those who would proclaim with their father, “I will be like the Most High.” Set forth the biblical case for a sovereign God who is jealous for His glory. Disallow through disputation (and lampooning when needed) the damnable errors of those who have refashioned the great sola doctrines into a salvation-helper gospel that exalts the fallen will of man.
From every corner, in every thread exalt the right of God to do whatsoever He pleaseth. Be not dismayed by persistent anthropocentric rantings. Blessed are you when they revile you for the sake of the truth. Happy are ye when the Servetus card is played and the strawmen are paraded before you for He who is enthroned in heaven reigns.
– Pope Piel I, Thread Pope
I am herewith applying for membership. I cite Luther’s “Bondage of the Will” but for the sake of brevity I will limit myself to one paragraph:
“I shall here end this book, ready though I am to pursue the matter further, if need be; but I think that abundant satisfaction has here been afforded for the godly man who is willing to yield to truth without stubborn resistance. For if we believe it to be true that God foreknows and foreordains all things; that He cannot be deceived or obstructed in His foreknowledge and predestination; and that nothing happens but at His will (which reason itself is compelled to grant); then, on reason’s own testimony, there can be no ‘free will’ in man, or angel, or in any creature.”
Martin Luther, "Bondage of the Will", translated by J. I. Packer & O. R. Johnston, Fleming H. Revell, 1957, Twelfth printing, September 2000, p 317.
Can I join?
Arise (some mss read Swarm), O Calvinists, and plead your cause. The doctrines of grace are mightily assailed by those who would proclaim with their father, “I will be like the Most High.” Set forth the biblical case for a sovereign God who is jealous for His glory. Disallow through disputation (and lampooning when needed) the damnable errors of those who have refashioned the great sola doctrines into a salvation-helper gospel that exalts the fallen will of man.
Please resubmit when your theology improves.
Can I join? p-marlowe
Please resubmit when your theology improves. drstevej
Wise call your most high fishiness
Yes I thought of that a few seconds after I hit post.
However, I can't agree that hiliness is His most important attribute. I take notice of mosts and greatests and things. I can say who was the greatest man of men born of women, I can say what is the greatest sin because I know what is the greatest commandment. I can say what is the greatest love that a man may have for someone. But I can't thing of a scripture where God tells us what is his greatest attribute and it makes sense that He wouldn't because they are all to great for us to comprehend. To pick a best one would cheapen them all in a way.
psalm 136.
Ever use biblegateway.com?
From this it follows that no worship has ever pleased God except that which looked to Christ. On this basis, also, Paul declares that all heathens are "without God and bereft of hope of life" (Eph. 2:12).
Now, since John teaches that life was in Christ from the beginning (John 1:4), and all the world fell away from it (John 1:10), it is necessary to return to that source. So, also, Christ, inasmuch as he is the propitiator, declares himself to be life (John 11:25; 14:6)"
Institutes of the Christian Religion Book II, Chapter VI "Fallen Man Ought to Seek Redemption in Christ"
Okay, ping me up. (But can we limit the "Latin"? Even though I can do it, I don't really want to, and it looks like we are showing off)
"simul justus et peccator! Pecca fortiter sed fortius fide et gaude in Christo, qui victor est peccati, mortis et mundi" - Martin Luther
Can lurkers be included on the list? If so, I respectfully submit my application to the official GRPL list.
pony
Free will is unable to begin or to perfect any true and spiritual good, without grace."
"I affirm, therefore, that this grace is simply and absolutely necessary for the illumination of the mind, the due ordering of the affections, and the inclination of the will to that which is good. It is this grace which operates on the mind, the affections, and the will; which infuses good thoughts into the mind, inspires good desires into the actions, and bends the will to carry into execution good thoughts and good desires. This grace goes before, accompanies, and follows; it excites, assists, operates that we will, and co-operates lest we will in vain. It averts temptations, assists and grants succour in the midst of temptations, sustains man against the flesh, the world and Satan, and in this great contest grants to man the enjoyment of the victory. It raises up again those who are conquered and have fallen, establishes and supplies them with new strength, and renders them more cautious. This grace commences salvation, promotes it, and perfects and consummates it." James Arminius
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