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The Guild 8-29-2003 Say Goodbye to Summer

Posted on 08/29/2003 7:52:25 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs

"I can tell you my love for you will still be strong After the boys of summer have gone." -- Don Henley, "The Boys of Summer"

As Labor Day weekend approaches, the 2004 presidential campaign is taking shape. The days are getting shorter and the fortunes of some Democratic candidates who were hot in the spring may be beginning to fade. Some of the so-called top-tier Democratic candidates seeking to challenge Bush have failed to catch fire with voters in the important early primary states. Meanwhile, polls suggest that President Bush is vulnerable. News reports are for the first time portraying him as being on the defensive on foreign policy -- an issue that had been his strength.

Recent polls by Zogby International and Newsweek show that President Bush's job approval rating slipped over the summer, pegging him at just above 50 percent. At the same time, the public's anxiety over the administration's handling of Iraq -- from the number of soldiers being killed to the impact on the federal budget -- continues to rise.

The Zogby poll also points to another troubling sign for the president. Fewer people are saying the president deserves to be re-elected (45 percent) than are saying he does not deserve to be reelected (48 percent). That's a reversal from two and half months ago when the numbers lined up 49 percent to 38 percent in the president's favor. The numbers don't show a slippage among those who support the president as much as they show an increase in the number of people who don't. For those inclined to believe in the vast left-wing conspiracy, even a recent Fox News/Opinion Dynamic poll put the president's "deserves to be reelected" number at 47 percent.

"The president's poll numbers are a reflection of some other numbers: three million jobs lost, a deficit of a half a trillion dollars in one year," said Democratic National Committee spokesman Tony Welch. "And even some Republicans are saying the president has led us into disaster in Iraq. No matter what they say, the polls are an indication and reflection of something real."

Months ago, Bush pollster Matthew Dowd attempted to pre-empt "the sky-is-falling" scenarios. Dowd's analysis included some historical perspective: In 1983, President Reagan trailed possible opponents John Glenn and Walter Mondale in various polls. Reagan went on to beat Mondale in a landslide, winning 49 states. In 1987, President Bush trailed in generic ballot polls, but went on to handily defeat Michael Dukakis the next year. In late 1995 and early 1996, Wall Street Journal and Gallup polls had Bob Dole with a slight lead over Bill Clinton, who went on to defeat Dole in the November election.

It would be ridiculous to predict Bush's demise a year before the votes are cast. But polls do give a reliable snapshot in time of current opinions. That snapshots suggest the president is not as invincible as he once seemed.

The Dem Side

For however much Bush's poll numbers may be lagging, he still compares favorably when stacked up against any of the Democrats, according to recent polls. Some of the so-called top-tier Democrats appear to be fading. Sens. John Edwards (N.C.) and Bob Graham (Fla.) are polling at about 2 percent in New Hampshire -- one point ahead of retired Gen. Wesley Clark, who hasn't announced his intentions, formed an organization, or raised one cent for a campaign. Is it too early to panic? Or should these two big names be thinking about returning their attention to their day jobs in the Senate? Those questions will be asked with ever-greater frequency after Labor Day.

There's no question what the Orlando Sentinel thinks Graham should do. It ran an editorial last week with the headline "Bow Out Bob Graham." Noting that Graham was running neck-and-neck with the Rev. Al Sharpton in Iowa, the paper suggested that "the longer [Graham] continues his long-shot bid for president, the more he risks diminishing his effectiveness as a senator."

The situation in North Carolina is even more interesting, given the competitiveness of the seat even if Edwards decides to stay in the Senate race. Some in the state's Democratic establishment have asked Edwards to declare his intentions by Labor Day. That's not going to happen. George Stephanopoulos reported on Sunday that Edwards aides had predicted in private conversations with him that their candidate would pull out of the Senate race by Sept. 16, the date set for his official presidential announcement. But that may not happen either.

Edwards is cognizant of his problem in the polls, but he and those around him believe it is a problem of name recognition rather than message. They still believe he is the most capable of the Democratic candidates. Campaign aides believe it's going to be between six and eight weeks before they'll see the results of Edwards's campaign ads and "Real Solutions Express" bus tour.

Sen. John Kerry (Mass.) doesn't have to worry about running for reelection because his Senate term doesn't end until 2009. But he does have to worry about slipping poll numbers in New Hampshire. One theory about the reason Kerry plans to make his official entry into the presidential race in front of the USS Yorktown aircraft carrier in Charleston, S.C., is that with former Vermont governor Howard Dean moving ahead in New Hampshire, Kerry is looking to broaden his horizons in the key southern state. Someone from a rival campaign referred to the Kerry announcement as a "gimmickry."

Asked to respond, Kerry spokesman Robert Gibbs quipped: "What criticism? Oh, you mean like going to South Carolina? This just in: there's a primary on Feb. 3! Yes folks, we have adjusted strategy and we will compete in South Carolina." Gibbs also notes that Dean was the only one of the "major" candidates to already be running hundreds of thousands in television ads in New Hampshire and Iowa. (When reminded that Edwards was also running ads, Gibbs chose not to amend his comments.)

The approach of Labor Day also brings nearer the decision by former Gen. Wesley Clark about whether he will run. But as I said in my live discussion last week, Clark's candidacy is looking less and less likely to become a reality. Despite the passion he engenders among some people, he's still largely unknown to the vast majority of the American public. To suggest that a guy who's never run for anything can jump in and build the organization and name recognition, and raise the kind of money he would need to compete and win the nomination this late in the game seems a stretch.

More Gimmicks

Two other candidates are struggling to be competitive in key states by introducing some new "gimmickry" to their serious campaigns. Missouri Rep. Richard Gephardt, who is running second to Dean in Iowa polls, has just announced "The Great Gephardt Iowa Pie Challenge," in which he asks voters of the great first caucus state to help him find the tastiest pie in the land.

"Iowa has a long tradition of bringing great pies to our nation," a Gephardt statement reads. "From Stone's 'mile high pie' in Marshalltown to the apple pie at Cronk's Café in Denison, I've only begun to nibble away at the best of what Iowa has to offer - now I need your help in finding all of the great pies in this great state."

I'm not sure this blatant pandering to the sweet-tooth constituency furthers his ambition to be seen as the candidate with the biggest boldest ideas (see Gephardt health care plan), but, hey, it can't hurt.

Lieberman, who is polling in single digits in New Hampshire, announced this week its "See Joe's Car & Go See Nomar!" contest. Voters in New Hampshire who spot one of the campaign's "JoeMobiles" can become eligible for tickets drawing to go see Nomar Garciaparra and the Boston Red Sox by calling or e-mailing the campaign and saying, "I saw the car and love Nomar."

But the bigger question, come the Jan. 27 New Hampshire primary:

Will they love Joe?


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To: Iowa Granny
I think she used a surrogate mother, i.e., the "rent a womb" technique.
121 posted on 09/01/2003 3:54:30 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: Iowa Granny
I also saw a magazine that wrote about Joan Lunden's struggle to have her twins.

What struggle? She paid someone else to have them!!!

She will be 70 for their high school graduation.
122 posted on 09/01/2003 3:58:22 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Thank you, McClintock supporters, for all your nasty and insulting emails. STOP SENDING THEM)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
OMG. She should be maxing out on the Hot Flashes about the time they hit the Terrible Twos. She's lost her mind. She's going to need 3 Nannys. One for each child and one for herself.
123 posted on 09/01/2003 4:28:46 PM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: mountaineer
LOL - keep whacking at that rampaging sage! Thanks for the offer.

Quotes & Toasts of the Day -

I believe in equality. Equality for everybody. No matter how stupid they are or how superior I am to them. - Steve Martin

Only one man in a thousand is a leader of men, the other 999 follow women. Groucho Marx

Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. Groucho Marx (1890-1977)
124 posted on 09/01/2003 4:40:26 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: Iowa Granny
I forgot all about it! There are things that are so wretched that when viewed my memory automatically deletes it. Joan Lunden having twins (albeit by someone else's womb) at 52 is one of those.
125 posted on 09/01/2003 5:58:34 PM PDT by BigWaveBetty (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us all to be happy ~~ Ben Franklin)
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To: BigWaveBetty
Summer must be over; the black pantsuit is back...

U.S. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (news - web sites), D-N.Y., works the parade route crowd along Eastern Parkway during the West Indian Day parade, Monday, Sept. 1, 2003, in New York. (AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)

126 posted on 09/01/2003 7:47:23 PM PDT by daisyscarlett (A clean house is a sign of a broken computer...)
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To: mountaineer
I wonder if Mrs Dean will receive a makeover ala Hillary.
127 posted on 09/01/2003 8:14:08 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
I wonder if Mrs Dean will receive a makeover

I hope so. Bless her Heart. It will take a considerable amount of time. She'd better get started.

128 posted on 09/02/2003 4:37:01 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: Iowa Granny
I was watching an interview with Dean yesterday and he stated that he will win the presidency because he is going to absolutely win Texas and California. Those states are a lock for him.


Hmmmmm, I wonder if the Texas voters know.
129 posted on 09/02/2003 4:53:28 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Thank you, McClintock supporters, for all your nasty and insulting emails. STOP SENDING THEM)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Yes, I'm sure the Texas voters will go for Dean's pro-homosexual marriage stance, as well as his other out-of-the-mainstream views.
130 posted on 09/02/2003 5:17:10 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
The Texans really LOVE Dean's stance on gun control, too /sarcasim

We mustn't do too much to diss Dean. He will make an absolutely DREAM opponent. He's the one we want.
131 posted on 09/02/2003 5:35:43 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: Iowa Granny
Kerry will be announcing his candidacy this morning in South Carolina.

I don't know the excact time, but I know that I will be too busy to pay attention.
132 posted on 09/02/2003 5:39:17 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I cannot support a lipless cross eyed career politician who can't fill out paperwork correctly.)
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At the West Indian Day Parade, Sen. Hillary Clinton didn't appear to let her rousing welcome go to her head. She said President George Bush can be defeated but that she won't be the Democrat trying to unseat him in 2004.

"It's something I'm not going to do, but it's obviously a huge issue on everyone's mind," Clinton told reporters at the soggy event, when asked about a published report that former Gov. Mario Cuomo would support her if she were to run for the White House.

"We need to defeat the incumbent," Clinton added, "and I think he is beatable. I don't want to see four years with no accountability for this administration and no (competitive) election at the end. I think that would be terrible for New York and terrible for America. So I'm going to do everything I can to elect a Democrat."

Full story: http://www.nynewsday.com/nyc-hil0902,0,4069260.story?coll=nyc-topheadlines-right
133 posted on 09/02/2003 5:43:31 AM PDT by mountaineer
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A Bangladeshi hawker sells the English and Bengali versions of 'Living History,' authored by former U.S. first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, in Dhaka, September 2, 2003. Bangladeshi writer Pramit Hossain translated the book into Bengali and it is being sold for 250 taka ($4.28). The downloaded English version is sold for 400 taka ($8.56). REUTERS/Rafiqur Rahman

Between the bargain-basement pricing and the hundreds of cases of books purchased by the DNC, it's no wonder Lardbottom's book is selling!

134 posted on 09/02/2003 5:47:12 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Here is the Des Moines Register's take on Kerry's announcement:

http://www.dmregister.com/news/stories/c4789004/22142914.html
135 posted on 09/02/2003 5:52:34 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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The "gayest person in New York" includes Chelsea Clinton in his book about “fearlessly inappropriate and fabulously eccentric women.”

Where does Chelsea Clinton fit into the wacky chick line?

“I don’t know. I was hoping she’d become a very out lipstick lesbian or something like that. That would add a wrinkle to the whole scenario. I was a bit perturbed to see her wearing banquet gowns from Versace and showing up at red carpet events. That doesn’t seem very appealing, that just seems like she’s a bit of an idiot. It would be nice if she had some sort of exceptional trait.”

Would you give Chelsea a discount at Barneys?

“Celebrities are always on the take. As a retailer I am completely appalled. The only ones with any money, with a disposable income, who make $8 million a movie, the only people who can afford couture gowns and tchotchkes from Jonathan Adler are the ones who want it for free. So as far as I’m concerned they can all go fuck themselves. They need to open their purses and buy stuff. It’s embarrassing! They keep saying, ‘It’s so sad I have to give this dress back.’ Well, bitch, if you bought it you could keep it and give it to your grandchildren!”
Dallas Voice

What is this, diss Chelsea day? In a story about the writer V.S. Naipaul, this snippet:

(He was an undergraduate at Oxford's University College, whose tradition of distinguished overseas visitors has since dwindled to encompass Chelsea Clinton.) Australian Financial Review.

Ouch!

136 posted on 09/02/2003 6:21:16 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: All
My apologies, I didn't notice the f-bomb in the gayest person in New York's comments, or I would have edited it.
137 posted on 09/02/2003 6:26:34 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Not a problem - it flowed with the rant.

138 posted on 09/02/2003 6:48:36 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: mountaineer; lodwick
Not a problem - it flowed with the rant.

Indeed, it did. No offense taken here. Altho I admit to being somewhat confused. I thought one of my sons somehow became a writer worthy of being posted in the Guild. ;~)

139 posted on 09/02/2003 7:17:33 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: lodwick
FNC broadcasting Kerry's announcement from N.Carolina. Blech!!
140 posted on 09/02/2003 7:18:52 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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