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Possible Media Blackout on Russian UFO Sighting?(crash filmed)
paranormalnews.com ^ | april-21-2003 | Written By: James L. Choron

Posted on 04/23/2003 2:50:56 PM PDT by green team 1999

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To: _Jim
no,i`m not saying that,but there was a big radar installation near roswell. coincidence.
21 posted on 04/23/2003 4:18:53 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: green team 1999
a big radar installation near roswell.

The wind blew there regularly, too - coincidence

22 posted on 04/23/2003 4:37:39 PM PDT by _Jim (ac)
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To: Pro-Bush
Roswell Daily Record for Tuesday, July 8, 1947.

RAAF Captures Flying Saucer On Ranch in Roswell Region
No Details of Flying Disk Are Revealed
Roswell Hardware
Man and Wife
Report Disk Seen

The intelligence office of the 509th Bombardment group at Roswell Army Field announced at noon today, that the field has come into possession of a flying saucer.

According to information released by the department, over authority of Maj. J. A. Marcel, intelligence officer, the disk was recovered on a ranch in the Roswell vicinity, after an unidentified rancher had notified Sheriff Geo. Wilcox, here, that he had found the instrument on his premises.

Major Marcel and a detail from his department went to the ranch and recovered the disk, it was stated.

After the intelligence officer here had inspected the instrument it was flown to higher headquarters.

The intelligence office stated that no details of the saucer's construction or its appearance had been revealed.

Mr. and Mrs. Dan Wilmot apparently were the only persons in Roswell who seen what they thought was a flying disk.

They were sitting on their porch at 105 South Penn. last Wednesday night at about ten o'clock when a large glowing object zoomed out of the sky from the southeast, going in a northwesterly direction at a high rate of speed.

Wilmot called Mrs. Wilmot's attention to it and both ran down into the yard to watch. It was in sight less then a minute, perhaps 40 or 50 seconds, Wilmot estimated.

Wilmot said that it appeared to him to be about 1,500 feet high and going fast. He estimated between 400 and 500 miles per hour.

In appearance it looked oval in shape like two inverted saucers, faced mouth to mouth, or like two old type washbowls placed, together in the same fashion. The entire body glowed as though light were showing through from inside, though not like it would inside, though not like it would be if a light were merely underneath.

From where he stood Wilmot said that the object looked to be about 5 feet in size, and making allowance for the distance it was from town he figured that it must have been 15 to 20 feet in diameter, though this was just a guess.

Wilmot said that he heard no sound but that Mrs. Wilmot said she heard a swishing sound for a very short time.

The object came into view from the southeast and disappeared over the treetops in the general vicinity of six mile hill.

Wilmot, who is one of the most respected and reliable citizens in town, kept the story to himself hoping that someone else would come out and tell about having seen one, but finally today decided that he would go ahead and tell about it. The announcement that the RAAF was in possession of one came only a few minutes after he decided to release the details of what he had seen.


23 posted on 04/23/2003 4:41:03 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: _Jim
well,i wait for few days if we get the pictures or the video,so what do you think about the phoenix lights two years ago?,flares from the military or?
24 posted on 04/23/2003 4:43:42 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: green team 1999

25 posted on 04/23/2003 5:01:24 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Iran/ Syria = Gulf War III)
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26 posted on 04/23/2003 5:05:32 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Iran/ Syria = Gulf War III)
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To: Pro-Bush
we probably have something like that,but we are not going to find out for years.
27 posted on 04/23/2003 5:17:38 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: green team 1999
Thought you might like this

The Wing


At first, I had no intention of saying anything about our government's latest secret deadly weapon. However, a friend sent me an article from a Russian newspaper (see below)...and I can no longer delay release of this information.

The "WING" makes the Aurora look like it's in reverse when flying. The "WING" out-flies the Aurora by five (5) times the speed.

Somehow we're still working on finding out how government scientists managed to figure out how to cancel the sound of the plane using its speed.
br> This "WING" is able to leave the atmosphere, but not by much, and still take crystal clear pictures of its targets.

The engine is a "pulse" very similar to Aurora's, however, the fuel consumption is much better. I've had it explained to me in terms of an automobile: Imagine getting 1500 miles to 1/2 (HALF) a gallon of gas!

This "WING" has the ability to stay aloft for weeks on end. If it needs refueling, it reenters the atmosphere and is refueled as any other airplane.

Now, THE KICKER...its fuel is oxygen and hydrogen. The government, as we speak, has teams of scientists working on a conversion kit so the "WING" can "suck-in-and-convert" its own fuel from the atmosphere.

The scary part...the "WING" is also designed to deliver nuclear weapons as well as conventional weapons.

Its exact speed is actually unknown at this time. Its silence makes this plane an extremely deadly weapon in the hands of a warmongering president such as ours. Currently, there are four (4) working prototypes; they are based at the 'new Area 51' in the state of Oklahoma.





28 posted on 04/23/2003 5:38:46 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Iran/ Syria = Gulf War III)
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To: green team 1999
The Phoenix Lights may be due to the same factors as The Marfa Lights - which I believe are created due to natural processess (such cooling of the evening air and diffraction of a light source originating at quite some distance from the observer):
Nine miles east of the Texas city of Marfa, far out into the West Texas desert at the base of the Chianti Mountains lies or rather, floats an age-old conundrum. Small, ethereal, lights suspended in the air with no apparent source, no identifiable location. They float, they ebb, they glow and move . . . and they defy explanation.

The Ghost Lights of Marfa, as they've come to be known, were first reported more than a century ago. Robert Ellison, one of the first settlers in the area supposedly witnessed these mysterious glowing orbs in 1883. Since then the legend, and the surrounding curiosity, has grown. What once was a Texas-based story of interest has captured national recognition.

and
Marfa, Texas is a small west Texas ranching community of about 2,000 folks, located near Big Bend National Park.

Marfa is known primarily for two reasons. The classic movie "Giant", with Rock Hudson, Elizabeth Taylor, an incredibly clean-cut Dennis Hopper and James Dean®, was filmed in Marfa. Marfa is also home of the semi- famous Marfa Mystery Lights.

The Lights, which most people describe as spherical, appear south of Marfa each evening. They appear to bounce around, vanish, then re-appear elsewhere.

According to the legend, these lights have been observed since the 1800s.

The Lights have become an important tourist attraction in Marfa, a town that has seen much better days. On a nice evening, dozens of people will stop and view the Lights at the "official" viewing area, about 10 miles east of town on Highway 90.

From:

http://www.watchingyou.com/marfa.html

29 posted on 04/23/2003 5:58:01 PM PDT by _Jim (ac)
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To: Pro-Bush
"Now, THE KICKER...its fuel is oxygen and hydrogen. The government, as we speak, has teams of scientists working on a conversion kit so the "WING" can "suck-in-and-convert" its own fuel from the atmosphere."

Ooooh. Oxygen and hydrogen. Just like the 1960-70's Saturn rocket upper stages, and the Centaur upper stage. And the Space Shuttle Main Engine (SSME). That's cutting-edge, fer sure.

People who are ignorant of propulsion often confuse "fuel" with "propellant". Propellants are oxidizer and fuel. You cannot "suck fuel from the atmosphere"; you can suck oxidizer. Air is 22% oxygen and therefore a pretty rotten oxidizer compared to liquid oxygen. And studies--repeatedly run since the 1960s--on sucking air and separating out the oxygen have shown that: (1) The equipment for doing so is incredibly heavy and (2) Any moisture in the air plays havoc with the heat-exchangers needed to liquify the oxygen. Oh, and (3) the energy required is considerable, which reduces the overall efficiency of the powerplant.

As for nuclear engines, they tend to have thrust-to-weight ratios in the "absurd" category. Whereas the SSME has a thrust-to-weight of about 70, nuclear rocket engines are in the range of 8-20. They would be suitable for an upper stage, but not for a booster. And an atomic air-breather was exhaustively studied in the 60's and 70's and it is simply a non starter. If you want, I'll provide gruesome detail.

--Boris

30 posted on 04/23/2003 6:18:02 PM PDT by boris (Education is always painful; pain is always educational)
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To: green team 1999
You might also check this out (if your native language is not English there is an option for Noweigan (sp?) on the main page):

http://hessdalen.org/

Project Hessdalen

Project Hessdalen is a project at Østfold College

Hessdalen is a small valley in the central part of Norway. From the end of 1981 to 1984, there was a big "UFO-flap" in that valley. Several hundreds observation was done. At the most there were about 20 reports a week. About 85% of the observations describe a bright light. The other describe daylight observations.

Project Hessdalen was established in the summer of 1983, and a big field investigation was carried out during one month in January and February 1984. 53 observations was done during that fieldwork. You may read the details in the technical report. There was also one field investigation in the winter of 1985, but no phenomena was seen during the periode with instruments present.

The observation is still going on, but now in the order of 20 a year. An automatic measurement station was put up in Hessdalen in August 1998. Alarm-pictures is sent to this station.

What shall this "phenomena" be called?
Earthlight?, Min-min light?, Unknown light?, - or just: The "Hessdalsphenomena".


31 posted on 04/23/2003 6:22:35 PM PDT by _Jim (ac)
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To: Pro-Bush
this triangular wing might be what is reported in different parts of the world.
32 posted on 04/23/2003 7:33:57 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: boris
Thanks Boris..Believe me I don't claim any of this stuff is true. I think it is interesting to ponder what skunk works is working on. Remember how long the Gov denied having the B-2 and F-117? Pretty much everything we see in the air today was developed over 30 years ago.
33 posted on 04/23/2003 7:51:05 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Iran/ Syria = Gulf War III)
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To: green team 1999
"This looks like your basic ’hair, teeth and eyeballs’ situation, one Russian Navy diver said, somewhat grimly."

Since when do Russian divers use American euphemisms in their conversations?

Just a thought.

34 posted on 04/24/2003 8:32:41 AM PDT by oldsalt
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