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Precognition

Posted on 03/15/2003 11:40:21 PM PST by Mother Abigail



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TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: atypicalpneumonia; cdc; esp; henryniman; sars; shouldaseenitcoming; superflu; who
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To: Star Traveler

Mother Abigail is the keeper of the Ebola thread. She’s been on hiatus for some time. As far as I know she’s a medical professional of some sort. She may have been doing some work in Africa, or there’ve been other real life problems.

She’s also involved with the bird flu topic, but not the keeper of those threads. Ebola is Mother Abigails specialty.

As far as her recent comments, those are in response to current publications (one being from the New Scientist 8 Oct 07), and the other being just as recent.


81 posted on 10/09/2007 2:33:15 PM PDT by raygun (There's no real cause for concern; you're never more than 6 feet away from some kind of spider.)
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To: Mother Abigail

Very bad news. It means that a vaccine is almost impossible, and that we might get a new strain that is easier to catch.


82 posted on 10/09/2007 2:55:46 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Mother Abigail
The viral transmission to primates occurs in the dry season, a period when food resources become increasingly scarce. The great apes then come into competition with bat species for fruit supplies when foraging and can be infected notably by blood or by placental fluid that escapes when bats give birth

This was speculated years ago on the old Marburg Surveillance Thread.

Some of those species of Bat migrate seasonally, and to further complicate things, are seen locally as a delicacy.

Shedding virii in bat guano or other fluids also explains earlier connections with caves or mines and the contamination of fruit (which the bats eat). That could well be the mechanism by which the 'bushmeat' gets contaminated, but equally, a sick primate is an easier target as with any prey.

A human would have to come into contact with the virii while they were viable, which would explain the hit-and-miss character of the outbreaks. Rainy weather would tend to push the bats underground for shelter, often streams associated with caves will empty into water sources.

If all factors came together at the same time, contamination, viability, and human presence, things could click. If not, no outbreak.

Slowly the puzzle pieces are filling in the picture.

83 posted on 10/09/2007 7:13:57 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Star Traveler; raygun
EXPLORING THE NEW MEDIA'S EVOLUTIONARY PATH
-THE BIRTH OF THE FLU BLOG -


Every beginning is a consequence - every beginning ends some thing

(Paul Valery)

In February of 2003 newspapers, cable news and radio were the interface between the American public and breaking news. It had long been such.

No one set out to destroy the relevancy of these institutions.

Like so much change it just happened. Passion and thirst mixed with a witches' blend of electronic gadgetry created a new paradigm.

A paradigm where power was snatched from the media elite and taken by the citizenry - and no one has ever looked back.

Until now.

MARCH 2003


The world was on the eve of war. Not the televised war of the First Gulf War, but the first internet war.

Many homes and offices were now wired to the net and the Internet was to become the CB of the 21st century. Far across the immense spectrum of the Internet - discussion nodes filled with speculation and rumor.

A very strange vibe was brewing.

A strange vibe indeed. This was March of 2003 - this was to be the time of change.

It began as little more than a few whispers among the cacophony of war talk. A post on the 13th here, a post on the 14th here.

The earliest and most followed post was placed on the 13th. Within three days, this thread had received a couple of hundred comments, as the severity of the situation became apparent.

It was now the Ides of March, and this story unfolds - for the transformation is about to begin.

In the strangest place.

THE OLD PARADIGM


As the concept of the "Discussion Forum" caught on across the growing Internet, a couple of standard formulas became the norm.

The first was a single poster copying and pasting a news article from the Main Stream Media and then adding comments. This early Blog form still exists today.

The second formula developed largely during the "Clinton Scandals".

Liberals and conservatives separated and started their own discussion forums where they would post an article from the Drudge Report or the New York Times and then proceed to beat it to death with comments.

There were a few science centered Blogs, but they also followed these same two formats. And they were out in the periphery - with few members and very few visitors.

No it was the mega sites where the action was - a huge group of diverse members, lots of visitor traffic and a stable infrastructure.

The elements were now all in place for the perfect storm.

THE TRANSFORMATION


This is the way the world ends Not with a bang, but a whimper

T. S. Eliot


It was the Ides of March, late in the night - on the hottest conservative forum on the Internet - that she appeared.

In an obscure section of that web site she posted a cryptically titled thread, made a comment about Ebola, a comment about God and then posted an advisory about a "worldwide health threat."

In a section that had seen only seven threads in the past seven days, she wove a strange, exotic and haunting thread for two days.

Then on the 17th of March she posted the first of 20 highly technical medical threads:

1. Precognition

2. Hong Kong Health Secretary calls for calm as SARS cases double, (83 up from 42 on Sunday)

3. LATEST SARS UPDATE - DETAILED MEDICAL INFORMATION

4. BREAKING BIG: POSSIBLE PATHOGEN DETECTED IN SARS CASE

5. Killer Virus (SARS) Identified

6. Seven victims of mystery pneumonia stayed on same floor of Hong Kong hotel

7. Guangdong doctor linked to SARS outbreak

8. President of the American Society of Microbiology on SARS - "Everything says it is airborne."

9. SARS REACHES HONG KONG SCHOOLS - 32 NEW CASES (IS THE BUG OUT OF THE BOX?)

10. CDC increases SARS cases to 22 in U.S.

11. CHINA CONFIRMS CASES AND DEATHS (SARS) - HONG KONG SITUATION DETERIORATING - 22 CASES IN US

12. Causative agent of SARS virus isolated from lung tissue - test is reliably identifying cases

13. SARS cases on the rise in Canada, may be spreading even further, 12 people showing symptoms

14. VIETNAM NEW SARS HOT ZONE, U.S. Warns Citizens in Vietnam To leave

15. SARS cases on the rise in Canada, may be spreading even further, 12 people showing symptoms

16. Singapore - 740 people quarantined, 14 new cases on Monday, Hospitals close, SARS spreads

17. 37 In United States May Have SARS

18. SARS epidemic spreads in Taiwan, three other CDC officials have become ill.

19. WHAT IS THE CAUSE OF SARS? ONE VIRUS, TWO VIRUSES WORKING IN CONCERT, OR A DETERMINANT UNKNOWN

20. Killer-flu a 'white terror': Expert, "It is the worst medical disaster I have ever seen.

21. Preliminary Clinical Description of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome

- and over the next eleven days guided both lay and professionals, transformed the web site, crushed the paradigm and changed the way we interface with breaking news forever.

Oh, and there is that strange aspect of her name.

Every literate person on the Web new and understood, not only what it meant, but the endless nuances that lay associated with that name, in this context.

She signed on as Mother Abigail.

THE NEW PARADIGM


Among the hundreds of posters and thousands of viewers on the Mother Abigail threads were; Doctors, Lawyers, Nurses, Pharmacists, Veterinarians and Health Care workers of every stripe.

It became apparent quite early that this was not to be the normal flu talk. This is an early post:

"Doug had an interesting observation in picking a Morbillivirus as a likely agent. Hendra and Nipah are both zoonotic and it might well be a mutant of the Paramyxoviridae family.

Symptoms are right.

"Just because I have had tooooo much coffee, I will mention that both Hendra and Nipah have been given their own genus (Henipavirus).

Henipavirus becomes the fourth genus within the Paramyxovirinae subfamily of the Paramyxoviridae family. The other genera within the subfamily are Rubulavirus, Morbillivirus and Respirovirus."

52 posted on 03/17/2003 10:49:23 PM PST by Mother Abigail"

And so it began.

Why was this different? Because local MD's discovered ProMed, because an army of netizens began searching every corner of our world for information, because citizens of other countries began translating information that would normally be missed - because the whole was larger than the sum of the parts.

One poster who tried to write about Mother Abigail soon after the incident, and was quickly banned, called it SARS Central.

Sounds right to me.

She hijacked a web site, created a forum for the "in depth" discussion of Virology, Taxonomy and Microbiology. But interactive.

And it is that interactivity that opened the flood gates. Now it was possible to monitor breaking news in a far off land, have experts opine on that news, react to their opinions and post information of your own.

NBC Nightly News was never going to be the same.

The "Flu Blog" was born.

DENOUEMENT


Eleven days. From March the 15th to March the 26 she posted, wrote and guided. Then with the same grace and dignity that marked every word she ever wrote - she said goodby.

"It appears I have worked myself out of a job.

Many of you are now posting threads on SARS, and the information seems to be flowing in an accurate and timely manner.

So I will take this opportunity to thank all the posters for their hard work and diligence.

NOTE: I have tried to answer all the e-mails, except of course, the many that asked for personal information. Hope I was of some help

Stay Strong, Come and see me and - bring all your nice friends.......

20 posted on 03/26/2003 8:12:57 PM PST by Mother Abigail"

Some help indeed....

Mother Abigail had become, in the wink of an eye, the focal point for much praise and some derision. Then she was gone.

A year or so later she began posting, from time to time, on various web sites - always modest - never speaking of those days again.

She continues to this day.

84 posted on 10/10/2007 5:17:37 AM PDT by James Oscar
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To: Star Traveler; raygun

I posted this information to help us better understand the full scope of MA’s history.

I am reasonably certain that we still do not know but a small portion of the impact of her work.

http://www.curevents.com/vb/showthread.php?t=66595&highlight=blog


85 posted on 10/10/2007 5:48:54 AM PDT by James Oscar
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To: James Oscar

Thank you. I had never seen the poster before being pinged to this thread. So, I’ll go over the information and see what you’ve given here.


86 posted on 10/10/2007 8:28:02 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Mother Abigail

Just in time for Halloween :~(


87 posted on 10/10/2007 7:05:24 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG... how many saw this coming?)
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To: Mother Abigail

Marburg/Ebola combined, not really far-fetched as a person may think...

I actually had a dream last night, where I was talking to a class of CPR students, but it turned out they were all emerging pathogens, disguised as people, and it was Cardio-Pulmonary-Ravaging, instead of resuscitation. H5N1 was in there, along with Marburg and Ebola, and they were discussing having sex in the break (sorry!) and one of them laughed, saying his/her boss was paying for the class....

Absolutely terrifying dream. I understand that the “boss paying for the class” is state sponsored bioterror, and the rest probably has to do with some kind of combining of the other viruses.

Seriously hope it’s completely meaningless.


88 posted on 12/04/2007 4:03:32 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Mother Abigail

2009


89 posted on 01/30/2009 7:09:29 PM PST by Mother Abigail
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