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CLOSED CASKET--no flowers........
Guests at the Wake | 2-27-2003 | Nemesis Funeral Home

Posted on 02/28/2003 4:11:51 PM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci

"....We the People of the United States, in order to form a more perfect Union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish the Constitution for the United Sates of America............


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To: Chancellor Palpatine; Howlin
Of course, spamming the thread with selections from poetry anthologies is Blanche's pretentious way of saying, "O, Look! I passed 'Intro to Poetry!'"
61 posted on 03/01/2003 10:33:32 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: Catspaw
She'd need to actually have an creative side that is drawn to art and beauty to do that.

She quotes Yeats and other poets and writers just so that she can pretend she's erudite (of course, they were nothing but drug and alcohol addicted narcissists, which explains something about her personality).

62 posted on 03/01/2003 10:36:09 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (those who unilaterally beat their swords into plowshares wind up plowing for those who don't)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Funny, though--I'd expect some selections from a soulmate, Ezra Pound.
63 posted on 03/01/2003 10:46:32 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: Catspaw
The Mad Fascist? I can see her quite drawn to him.
64 posted on 03/01/2003 10:50:37 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (those who unilaterally beat their swords into plowshares wind up plowing for those who don't)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
...cogent, organized thought...

Would that be the cogent organized thought our President has put into the the prospect of nation building in the Middle East? That is, after all, what his Big Speech was about the other night. And all about how we're going to bring peace and prosperity to the Israelis and Palestinians.

Gee, after 5,000 years it's about time. I knew we could do it! Just as we did in Afghanistan! I love making the world safe for democracy--don't you?

(I wonder why discussion of that speech doesn't qualify as "news" around here?)

HOLD ON IRAQ!! WE'RE COMIN' TO SAVE YA!!!

When nation-building destroys

by Brendan O'Neill

'2001 was the year when Afghans began to regain their freedoms', said US assistant secretary of state Lorne Craner on 4 March 2002, as his boss Colin Powell hailed the new Afghanistan a 'human rights triumph' at the launch of the US State Department's annual report on human rights. 'A year ago, [Afghanistan] was ruled by one of the world's most repressive regimes', said Craner. 'Now Afghans have come to cherish the lives, society and freedoms they have regained.' (1)

But when US defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld was asked about the state of Afghanistan just two weeks earlier on 18 February 2002, he said: 'It's not a pretty picture.' (2). He raised concerns about 'rival factions…still jostling for power, al-Qaeda and Taliban fighters remain[ing] on the loose, and Iran creating trouble by spiriting weapons across the border in support of factions opposed to [the interim government]' (3).

This isn't the Bush administration's only contradictory claim about the state of the new Afghanistan. On 19 March 2002, as the United Nations held emergency debates about 'extending the international peacekeeping force beyond Kabul [to counter] mounting lawlessness and violence in much of Afghanistan' (4), Rumsfeld claimed that 'no "serious security problem" exists in Afghanistan' (5). But a month earlier, on 21 February, Associated Press revealed that 'the CIA is warning in a classified analysis that Afghanistan could descend into civil war' (6) - and Donald 'no serious security problem' Rumsfeld said that if things got any worse, US forces may have to 'police the whole country' (7).

President Bush declared on 13 March 2002 that Osama bin Laden no longer poses a big threat in Afghanistan. 'I truly am not that concerned about him - I know he is on the run', said Bush (8), describing bin Laden as 'a person who has now been marginalised' (9). But just a week later, US commanders were keen to point out that al-Qaeda is 'still a problem in the new Afghanistan', with major-general Frank Hagenbeck claiming on 21 March 2002 that 'there are al-Qaeda operatives in Paktia right now, who are going to great lengths to regroup' (10).

So what is the state of post-Taliban Afghanistan? Is it a human rights triumph where freedoms have been regained, or just a mess? A security nightmare that needs heavy policing, or a state with some non-threatening security issues? One thing is certain: the Bush administration's contradictory statements about Afghanistan over the past two months show that US policy is driven less by concern for democracy and human rights, than by political expediency.

In northern Afghanistan, there is a 'barely concealed civil war'

When the USA wants to pose as a global defender of human rights, it talks up the new Afghanistan as a 'success story' (11) - but when it wants to put some pressure on the interim government, it points out Afghanistan's 'unpretty' problems (12). When the UN talks about deploying more peacekeepers, Rumsfeld says Afghanistan doesn't have any 'serious' security issues because he is 'opposed [to] enlarging the [UN] mission' (13) - but when it comes to justifying further US intervention, Rumsfeld holds forth on Afghanistan's ongoing 'security nightmare' (14). And when President Bush wants to convince us that all 'people who love freedom [should] be concerned about Iraq', as he did on 13 March 2002, then he'll say he's no longer 'concerned' about small fry like bin Laden (15). But when US commanders want to justify bombing caves from on high and sending US troops (or more often Afghan allies) into places like Shah-i-Kot (16), they talk of al-Qaeda as a 'deadly threat' that has yet to be 'destroyed' (17).

Yet behind all these contradictory statements, one sentence about the new Afghanistan rings true: 'It's not a pretty picture.' Since the Taliban was defeated in November 2001 and the new multi-ethnic interim government installed in December 2001, Afghanistan has been unstable bordering on chaotic. UK prime minister Tony Blair may have hailed the collapse of the Taliban as a 'total vindication' of the West's war (18) and President Bush might have described the interim government as a 'new beginning', but these developments have brought anything but stability to Afghanistan. In northern Afghanistan, there is what one journalist calls a 'barely concealed civil war'. The interim government's defence minister General Mohammed Fahim and its deputy defence minister General Abdul Dostum have clashed over who controls the north. Dostum, who largely controlled northern Afghanistan from the start of the 1990s until he was ousted by the Taliban in 1998, is 'unhappy with the new power carve-up' and unhappy about being deputy defence minister (19). As one report says, 'Northern Afghanistan, once the bastion of a single warlord [Dostum], is now the stage for an increasingly violent struggle, as the same rivals that helped reduce the country to rubble race against time to expand their power base' (20).

Also in the north, there are reports of ethnic Pashtuns being forced out of their homes by both Dostum's and Fahim's forces. According to one report: 'Claiming that anti-Taliban commanders have been inciting people to loot homes and kill Pashtuns, thousands of ethnic Pashtuns are fleeing northern Afghanistan.' (21) Observing northern Afghanistan, one Afghan commentator raised concerns that 'post-Taliban Afghanistan may be unable to rein in the ethnic, tribal and personal rivalries that have riveted the Central Asian nation for more than two decades' (22). Meanwhile, in east Afghanistan there are what one US newspaper calls 'turf wars' and 'ethnic rifts' (23). '[S]urging ethnic tensions and jockeying warlords are undermining dreams of unity and peace', says one report - claiming that 'portions of the "Pashtun belt" in the east of the country are in disarray after the collapse of Taliban rule. While [interim prime minister] Hamid Karzai is himself Pashtun, his writ seems even less respected in these eastern areas than in other trouble spots. One recent appointment he made of a governor for the Ghazni province sparked a return message from the local council that "we'll take any Hindu in the bazaar" over this candidate' (24).

Karzai's government is an unelected clique holed up in Kabul

But then, Karzai's interim government is hardly in control of Afghanistan. As the New York Times reported at the end of March 2002, 'Outside Kabul, there is little evidence of a central government at all': 'Indeed, Karzai often appears to be less a head of state than a mayor. In his three months in power, Karzai has ventured only occasionally into the provinces….' (25) The New York Times concludes that 'for all Karzai's cheeriness, there are growing signs that the interim government over which he presides is a troubled enterprise, sustained almost entirely by his charisma and Western cash' (26).

In short, Karzai's interim government, despite the hope that it would bring 'unity and reconciliation', now resembles those unstable and ever-changing governments that Afghanistan had between the Soviet withdrawal in 1989 and the arrival of the Taliban in 1996: unelected cliques holed up in Kabul, while the rest of Afghanistan is largely controlled by other factions.

So what happened to the West's plans for post-Taliban peace and security? Why is Afghanistan descending further into division, sectarianism and civil conflict? Some commentators would have us believe that that's just how Afghanistan is, like it or lump it. 'You have to ask yourself', writes one US journalist, 'whether there can ever be peace in a country with such stubborn and bitter divisions' - while another asks, 'How can a nation be rebuilt when moving about it sometimes mean courting death?' (27). Yet it is precisely Western 'nation-building' that has exacerbated tensions in Afghanistan.

There has been division and tension in Afghanistan for decades, particularly following the Soviet withdrawal in the late 1980s. When the Afghan force the Mujahideen - which the USA financed, armed and sponsored to fight against the Soviet occupation from 1979 to 1989 - took control of Afghanistan, its rule was marked by chaos and barbarity. Different groups and factions of the former Mujahideen spent much of the 1990s fighting over which was the official Afghan government. After the Taliban seized power in 1996, many of these opposing factions formed the Northern Alliance to take a stand against Taliban rule - but it was a shaky alliance that was finally ripped apart by the collapse of the Taliban in November 2001. Now, past animosities are rising to the fore, helped along by further interference from outside.

Take the new interim government, around which much of rising tension between former warlords has occurred. The government was set up by the United Nations and Afghan representatives in Bonn, Germany, at the end of November 2001, and finally agreed on 5 December 2001. The 'Agreement for a Broad-Based, Multi-Ethnic Interim Government' may uphold 'the right of the people of Afghanistan to freely determine their own political future' - but it simultaneously takes that right away by granting superseding powers to the UN in Afghanistan, including: 'the right to investigate human rights violations and [to] recommend corrective action', the right to 'advise the interim authority in establishing a politically neutral environment', and the right to 'monitor and assist in the implementation of all aspects of this agreement' (28).

The interim government institutionalises the ethnic and sectarian divisions that have blighted Afghanistan for decades. Far from offering a vision of democracy or unity, the UN-backed interim authority raises ethnic divisions to government level, making representation dependent on ethnic background and power. The Bonn agreement describes the interim authority as 'a first step towards the establishment of a broad-based, gender-sensitive, multi-ethnic and fully representative government' (29) - and makes clear that the interim government's chairman, vice-chairman and other leaders were selected 'on the basis of professional competence and personal integrity…with due regard to the ethnic, geographic and religious composition of Afghanistan' (30).

The interim government institutionalises ethnic and sectarian divisions

So far as the agreement is concerned, any successful administration in Afghanistan must ensure 'the equitable representation of all ethnic and religious communities' (31).

Whatever else the Taliban did, it at least brought a measure of stability to Afghanistan. In the wake of the Taliban's collapse, making ethnic and religious background the measure of power was inevitably going to lead to conflict and bloodshed among former warlords. Indeed, in much of north and east Afghanistan, commanders and generals now exert their power in the interim government and stake a claim in the future of 'multi-ethnic Afghanistan' by fighting each other on the ground.

Consider the clash in the north between deputy defence minister Dostum and defence minister Fahim. Their bitter battle over the past two months didn't arise out of thin air, but has been exacerbated and driven by the struggle for power on the loya jirga, or grand council, which will replace the interim authority in June 2002. In June, the UN, the interim government and tribal leaders will agree on a permanent multi-ethnic government along the same lines as the interim authority - and in preparation for that, some current interim ministers are fighting it out on the battlefield. As one report perceptively notes:

'Ironically, the tension [in the north] is being fanned by the very institution meant to bring stability to the war-torn nation after 23 years of conflict - the grand council. The traditional summit of tribal elders is due to meet in June to elect a representative government meant to unite the nation's disparate patchwork of tribes and ethnic groups. For warlords who have always measured their influence in firepower rather than votes, the next few months represent a chance to gain as much clout as possible before the die is cast.' (32)

Others have pointed out how the ethnic selection procedure for the interim authority has heightened the northern conflict. Defence minister Fahim is a leader of the Jamait Party, which is largely made up of ethnic Tajiks, while deputy defence minister Dostum is a leader of ethnic Uzbeks. Dostum's Uzbeks far outnumber Fahim's Tajiks in the north, which is why Dostum was able to 'rule the north' for so long (until the Taliban ousted him in 1998). But because the interim authority wanted an equal measure of Tajik representation in its cabinet of ministers (and also because the UN and co were never keen on the notorious Dostum), it picked Fahim as defence minister and made Dostum his deputy.

As one commentator points out, this finally gave Fahim's Jamait Party the confidence to have a pop at Dostum, after years of bitter but contained rivalry: 'The Jamait Party has been emboldened to challenge the ethnic Uzbek Dostum by its dominance of key positions in the interim authority, notably the defence [ministry]…. In the north, Dostum is being slowly squeezed out of his traditional stronghold of Mazar-i-Sharif by local Jamait commander Mohammed Atta, who has the air of a confident man.' (33)

Afghan leaders have used America's lack of intelligence for their own ends

And as the Times of India points out, on top of the ethnic rivalry sparked by the battle for power on the multi-ethnic grand council, outside intervention continues to play its part in dividing the north: 'With Dostum supported by traditional ally Turkey and the Jamait Party said to be favoured by Russia, the spectre of foreign interference - the cause of many of Afghanistan's past problems - is never far away.' (34)

Meanwhile, in eastern Afghanistan direct US intervention is exacerbating tensions between ethnic groups and rival ministers. The Bush administration may not 'go in for nation-building' and it may claim that its war aim in Afghanistan is just to get rid of al-Qaeda (though its war aims seem to change on an almost weekly basis (35)) - but in east Afghanistan, the US military is heavily involved in civil conflicts around who will hold power in the new multi-ethnic Afghanistan. In the city of Jalalabad in east Afghanistan, for example, the US military is supporting Hazrat Ali as regional defence minister - providing him with weapons and transportation. But Ali, a leading member of the small Pashai tribe, has little support in Jalalabad, which is in the heart of east Afghanistan's 'Pashtun belt'. However, as the Washington Post points out, American backing has allowed Ali to take on, and defeat, all-comers: 'Ali's rise has come at the expense of two more politically experienced men, veteran guerrilla leader Mohammed Shareef and regional governor Abdul Qadir. At least for now, Ali, a member of the small Pashai tribe, has trumped these two ethnic Pashtun rivals in the centre of Afghanistan's Pashtun belt' (36).

America's backing of Ali has created tensions in parts of east Afghanistan, with one Afghan commentator predicting that 'civil conflict there looks almost inevitable' as Ali and his supporters 'flaunt their power'. But then, as the Washington Post says, 'such bullying comes easily to Ali, who as America's local warlord is the only power that really matters in Jalalabad. Supported by US military might and dollars, Ali represents a potent new force in post-Taliban Afghanistan, challenging a weak central government that has no choice but to do business with him. [He] owes his rise largely to the Pentagon…' (37)

Some claim that US forces are directly involved in supporting attacks on interim government appointees in east Afghanistan. On 24 March 2002, Sur Gul, the security chief in Khost, was shot at by rival Afghans - and the governor of Khost claims that US forces supported the attack. As Associated Press reported: 'The governor of an eastern Afghan province demanded US special forces hand over several rival Afghan allies, who allegedly opened fire on the region's security chief, killing a bodyguard and wounding two others before reportedly fleeing into an American compound. Afghan authorities said the assailants were believed to have been allies of the USA and took refuge in the Americans' fortified airport compound.' (38) The US military has used force in Afghanistan's burgeoning civil conflict. On 18 February 2002, the US military dropped bombs in south-east Afghanistan, not on al-Qaeda caves this time, but on divided Afghan forces. As the New York Times reported: 'American forces appear to have opened a new phase in the war in Afghanistan with two bombing raids that Afghan commanders in the area said were aimed at clashing militia forces rather than the Taliban or al-Qaeda…. The bombing raids seemed to have placed the USA for the first time in a position of using American air power in defence of the [interim] government.' (39)

On 18 February, the US military dropped bombs on divided Afghan forces

When US forces are not deliberately involving themselves in civil clashes in Afghanistan, they often find themselves drawn in. Some Afghan leaders have used America's lack of intelligence on Afghanistan for their own ends - by getting US forces to attack their rivals by falsely labelling them al-Qaeda or Taliban forces. In December 2001, Afghan warlord and governor of the Paktia province Bacha Khan was removed by Afghanistan's interim government after he allegedly 'tricked US commanders into bombing a convoy of tribal leaders travelling to his inauguration in December by telling the Americans that the vehicles carried Taliban leaders' (40).

And at the end of February 2002, US forces and their Afghan allies shot and killed 16 men in a compound in the Hazar Qadam region of southern Afghanistan after being told they were al-Qaeda members. But, as the New York Times reported, '[Some] Afghans insist the Americans were fed false information from a local warlord hoping to help his side in a power struggle.' (41)

Reading some reports about rising tensions in Afghanistan, you could be forgiven for thinking there was something in Afghans' blood that drove them to squabble and fight. In fact, the recent rise in civil conflict between rival ethnic groups and rival political players is driven from without - by the setting up of an ethnic-based interim government, with the promise of a permanent ethnic-based grand council in June, which grants power and influence according to ethnicity, and by continuing US and foreign intervention in the battles for power among rival Afghan forces. Some will continue to see Afghanistan's conflicts as a result of Afghans' inability to live together in peace - citing something like the murder of the interim civil aviation minister Abdul Rahman, who was killed at Kabul airport in February 2002, allegedly by an angry mob who wanted to fly to Mecca but were frustrated by delays, as an example of 'Afghan savagery'. Yet even this killing was attributed to members of the interim government rather than to ordinary angry Afghans.

At the end of February interim government leader Karzai revealed that two senior interim government ministers had been arrested in Saudi Arabia in connection with the murder, and that five suspects 'associated with the interim authority' were also being held in Afghanistan itself. According to one report, 'Karzai [blames] the murder on Rahman's long-running personal feuds with some officials in the intelligence, defence and justice ministries' (42). Another example of how conflict is heightened by institutionalising ethnic and political divisions, perhaps?

As violence flares in Afghanistan, it is a bit rich for US and European politicians to express 'grave concern' about the possibility of civil war - considering that, if it happens, they will be largely responsible.

article with notes

65 posted on 03/01/2003 10:53:43 AM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
Pssst, I hate to do this but I think there is need for an usher in here. The riff-raff who bloody well killed the chap have made their way into this solemn occasion and are displaying the weapons that caused the downfall in the first place. You surely cannot allow this armchair rabble, this post-modern sludge a place at this occasion?

But again, they will kick their way in if not invited. That is just their kind. No attention to the modesty required those of low birth. Those of low birth have kicked in the door and kicked in our heads. They are jumping with boots on every face remotely human. They are not smart, of course, or cultured, but they do know how to take directions and they do know how to do as their told.


They know how to line up properly.

66 posted on 03/01/2003 10:57:12 AM PST by Zviadist
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Ah, yes, the Mad Fascist...making broadcasts for the Italian fascists directed at our troops during WWII got him into a heap o' trouble post-war. He spent 12 years in St. Elizabeth's after his acquittal for treason (the jury deemed him nuts in a deliberation which set land speed records). The Cantos are an interesting read, if only for his development and use of imagism based on Chinese and Japanese symbolism. Interestingly, one of the poets he did advance was Blanche's Yeats, but he was more influential with T.S. Eliot, editing Eliot's early work (not the "Cats" stuff---that's after Eliot's brain turned to Maypo.) He went to college with William Carlos Williams, but, despite this linkage, Williams and Pound were not that influential with each other's mature work.
67 posted on 03/01/2003 11:02:51 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
I mean no offense, but what are you trying to say?

RE-ADJUSTMENT

I thought there would be a grave beauty, a sunset splendour
In being the last of one's kind: a topmost moment as one watched
The huge wave curving over Atlantis, the shrouded barge
Turning away with wounded Arthur, or Ilium burning.
Now I see that, all along, I was assuming a posterity
Of gentle hearts: someone, however distant in the depths of time,
Who could pick up our signal, who could understand a story. There won't be.

Between the new Hembidae and us who are dying, already
There rises a barrier across which no voice can ever carry,
For devils are unmaking language. We must let that alone forever.
Uproot your loves, one by one, with care, from the future,
And trusting to no future, receive the massive thrust
And surge of the many-dimensional timeless rays converging
On this small, significant dew drop, the present that mirrors all.

C.S. Lewis -- Open Mic Nite

68 posted on 03/01/2003 11:08:27 AM PST by Askel5
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
Ah, yes - that great old liberal logic that a known psychopathic, monolithic government is better than any period of instability which may result from removal of that entity. You've learned it well, but unfortunately for you, the rest of us see it for what it is - shallow whimpering from people who are afraid to take aggressive steps in their own lives, projecting their personal inadequacies on society.

Give it up. Nobody here is going to salvage your life, there is no Prince Charming to whisk you away or make all your decisions for you, nor are women going to have that intolerable burden of the vote, responsibility for their own life's failures, or the burden of waking up and going to work taken from them.

69 posted on 03/01/2003 11:09:48 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (those who unilaterally beat their swords into plowshares wind up plowing for those who don't)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Shine on you Crazy Diamond (part 1 and 2)

Remember when you were young, you shone like the sun.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Now there's a look in your eyes, like black holes in the sky.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
You were caught on the cross fire of childhood and stardom,
blown on the steel breeze.
Come on you target for faraway laughter, come on you stranger,
you legend, you martyr, and shine!

You reached for the secret too soon, you cried for the moon.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Threatened by shadows at night, and exposed in the light.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Well you wore out your welcome with random precision,
rode on the steel breeze.
Come on you raver, you seer of visions, come on you painter,
you piper, you prisoner, and shine!

Nobody knows where you are, how near or how far.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Pile on many more layers and I'll be joining you there.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
And we'll bask in the shadow of yesterday's triumph,
and sail on the steel breeze.
Come on you boy child, you winner and loser,
come on you miner for truth and delusion, and shine!
70 posted on 03/01/2003 11:10:52 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci

THE COUNTRY OF THE BLIND





Hard light bathed them-a whole nation of eyeless men, 
Dark bipeds not aware how they were maimed. A long 
     Process, clearly, a slow curse,
           Drained through centuries, left them thus.

At some transitional stage, then, a luckless few, 
No doubt, must have had eyes after the up-to-date, 
     Normal type had achieved snug
           Darkness, safe from the guns of heavn;

Whose blind mouths would abuse words that belonged to their 
Great-grandsires, unabashed, talking of light in some 
     Eunuch'd, etiolated,
           Fungoid sense, as a symbol of

Abstract thoughts. If a man, one that had eyes, a poor 
Misfit, spoke of the grey dawn or the stars or green-
     Sloped sea waves, or admired how
           Warm tints change in a lady's cheek,

None complained he had used words from an alien tongue, 
None question'd. It was worse. All would agree 'Of course,'
     Came their answer.  "We've all felt
           Just like that."  They were wrong. And he


Knew too much to be clear, could not explain.  The words --
Sold, raped flung to the dogs -- now could avail no more;
     Hence silence.  But the mouldwarps,
           With glib confidence, easily

Showed how tricks of the phrase, sheer metaphors could set
Fools concocting a myth, taking the worlds for things.
     Do you think this a far-fetched
           Picture?  Go then about among

Men now famous; attempt speech on the truths that once,
Opaque, carved in divine forms, irremovable,
     Dear but dear as a mountain- 
           Mass, stood plain to the inward eye.



C.S. Lewis -- Open Mic Nite

71 posted on 03/01/2003 11:12:22 AM PST by Askel5
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To: Chancellor Palpatine

THE CONDEMNED

There is a wildness still in England that will not feed
In cages; it shrinks away from the touch of the trainer's hand,
Easy to kill, not easy to tame. It will never breed
In a zoo for the public pleasure. It will not be planned.

Do not blame us too much if we that are hedgerow folk
Cannot swell the rejoicings at this new world you make -
We, hedge-hogged as Johnson or Borrow, strange to the yoke
As Landor, surly as Cobbett (that badger), birdlike as Blake.

A new scent troubles the air -- to you, friendly perhaps
But we with animal wisdom have understood that smell.
To all our kind its message is Guns, Ferrets, and Traps,
And a Ministry gassing the little holes in which we dwell.

C. S. Lewis -- Open Mic Nite

72 posted on 03/01/2003 11:15:18 AM PST by Askel5
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
I really need to get back to work on my Poster Rating System. I put this one in the "For Amusement Only" category.
73 posted on 03/01/2003 11:18:34 AM PST by Amelia
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
#42

LOL!

But I'm not up for a brawl at the moment.

74 posted on 03/01/2003 11:25:28 AM PST by independentmind
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To: Askel5
I'd be impressed if I didn't realize that was yet another attempt at pretention designed to make you seem brilliant to your short list of hangers on. But do please continue - they'd be upset if they weren't treated to your version of "deep thoughts" (not unlike Jack Handey from SNL).
75 posted on 03/01/2003 11:29:14 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (those who unilaterally beat their swords into plowshares wind up plowing for those who don't)
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
Jeffers does require a strong stomach at times. Still, he says what needs to be said.

So Many Blood Lakes

We have now won two world-wars, neither of which concerned us, we were slipped in. We have levelled the powers
Of Europe, that were the powers of the world, into rubble and dependence. We have won two wars and a third is coming.

This one--will not be easy. We were at ease while the powers of the world were split into factions: we've changed that.
We have enjoyed fine dreams; we have dreamed of unifying the world; we are unifying it--against us.

Two wars, and they breed a third. Now guard the beaches, watch the north, trust not the dawns. Probe every cloud.
Build power. Fortress America may yet for a long time stand, between the east and the west, like Byzantium.

--As for me: laugh at me. I agree with you. It is a foolish business to see the future and screech at it.
One should watch and not speak. And patriotism has run the world through so many blood-lakes: and we always fall in.
76 posted on 03/01/2003 11:29:48 AM PST by Alain Chartier
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To: Zviadist
Perhaps a self-help book--no make that brochure--is what is needed. You know: "Ten Easy Steps to This, That and Everything".

Naming of Parts

"Vixi duellis nuper idoneus
Et militavi non sine glori"

Today we have naming of parts. Yesterday,
We had daily cleaning. And tomorrow morning,
We shall have what to do after firing. But today,
Today we have naming of parts. Japonica
Glistens like coral in all of the neighboring gardens,
And today we have naming of parts.

This is the lower sling swivel. And this
Is the upper sling swivel, whose use you will see
When you are given your slings. And this is the piling swivel,
Which in your case you have not got. The branches
Hold in the gardens their silent, eloquent gestures,
Which in our case we have not got.

This is the safety-catch, which is always released
With an easy flick of the thumb. And please do not let me
See anyone using his finger. You can do it quite easily
If you have any strength in your thumb. The blossoms
Are fragile and motionless, never letting anyone see
Any of them using their finger.

And this you can see is the bolt. The purpose of this
Is to open the breech, as you see. We can slide it
Rapidly backwards and forwards: we call this
Easing the spring. And rapidly backwards and forwards
The early bees are assaulting and fumbling the flowers:
They call it easing the Spring.

They call it easing the Spring: it is perfectly easy
If you have any strength in your thumb: like the bolt,
And the breech, and the cocking-piece, and the point of balance,
Which in our case we have not got; and the almond-blossom
Silent in all of the gardens and the bees going backwards and forwards,
For today we have naming of parts.

-- Henry Reed

77 posted on 03/01/2003 11:36:13 AM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
The place is crowded with men

Me thinks your agenda is showing.

78 posted on 03/01/2003 11:36:59 AM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Alain Chartier
Gazing into the Lake the reflection breaks and scatters in the wind--as a red dynamo should.

Murmuring over and over: "They hate us because we are so free."

79 posted on 03/01/2003 11:46:39 AM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: Alain Chartier
...we have dreamed of unifying the world; we are unifying it--against us. ..

(There's nothing like that Good Ol' Yankee know-how.)

80 posted on 03/01/2003 11:48:47 AM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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