Posted on 01/29/2003 11:29:48 AM PST by Notwithstanding
Summary: You be the judge. A letter form the editor in chief.
... I bring these matters to your attention because of a threatening phone call I received a few weeks ago from a fellow psychologist. On page 78 of our last issue, PT ran a small ad for a book called A Parent's Guide to Preventing Homosexuality by Joseph Nicolosi, Ph.D., and his wife Linda. Nicolosi is a psychologist who specializes in trying to help unhappy gays become straight. Apparently feeling that this rather modest contribution to the literature on homosexuality wasn't getting enough attention, the psychologist, who identified herself as a lesbian activist, called me at home on a Saturday to tell me that PT should not have run such a heinous ad, that she was speaking for "thousands" of gays who were going to boycott PT, "and worse," that Dr. Nicolosi was a "bigot," that no gay person had ever successfully become straight, that homosexuality was entirely determined by genes, and that sexual conversion therapy had been condemned by the American Psychological Association. I told her that the editorial department at PT has no connection whatsoever with the advertising department, but she was unimpressed. She subsequently posted messages on the Internet urging people to harrass me at home (no one else ever did) and to send me complaint letters.
In all, I received about 120 letters, many of which exemplified a bad game of Telephone: Some people complained about an anti-gay "article" PT had published; others referred to an anti-gay book I had published and people who weren't subscribers said they were dropping their subscriptions. Several writers suggested I was a "Nazi" and a "bigot," and one compared me with the Taliban. A surprising number of letters asserted that gays have a right to be rude or abusive because they themselves have been abused. Most echoed the same points that my caller had made....
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You meant to say.. "Once again homosexual apologists are doing something else with their weekend and don't have time or interest enough to sit on FR and debate with people who will never change their minds, so I can declare false victory and stare smugly at my screen."
Besides, this thread started about a week ago. How much can be said about the topic?
Congratulations on your splendid work, though. LOL!!
Maybe they were born that way and can't change.
LOL I couldn't resist that full circle comment.
Ring, Ring!
Hello Kettle…this is Pot. You’re black!
You meant “Once again, notice that the homosexual apologists homosexuals have taken their ball and gone home".
All I want to know is how can there be environmental influence on an imaginary gene or genetic marker if we don’t know what gene or sequence to look for?
Spin is in!
Really? Let's look at what you quoted and said in conclusions: "The lack of 100% concordance in monozygotic twins suggests that genetic events alone are not responsible for the clefting phenotype" says the study.
"i.e homosexuality is NOT genetic, homosexuality has NO genetic markers like real diseases, homosexuality is a behavioral disorder that is strictly environmental." concludes Clint N. Suhks.
Firstly, I could be bothered to ask (in theory) how a statement that both genes and environment play a role leads to your conclusion that the genes don't exist.
Secondly, I could point out that I've found no study, and you've offered none, showing 100% concordance on any conditions, re: identical twins. And I might point out that you were the one who claimed they exist.
Thirdly, I could point out that I've found no study, and you've offered none, showing that a third type of twin exists in anything other than the theoretical. Further, I'd have to wonder what the existance of such a third type would do to the twin studies involving homosexuality.
Then, of course, funding for the research seems to have come from governmental and charitable agencies, so I'd have to ask (again) what made you think it's commercially driven.
Instead, I'll just point you back to the conversation between realpatriot71 and RAT patrol.
LOL... personally, I think they CAN change.. they just want to continue living a disgusting lifestyle. Hopefully they will see the light before the second coming.
"Ring, Ring!Hello Kettle…this is Pot. You’re black! "
Ring, ring! I have no idea what you mean. Please stop calling me.
Perhaps you missed Post #300, in which JoshGray said, "Don't bother me again." Translation: "I'm taking my ball and going home."
Translation: "I'm taking my ball and going home."
Meanwhile, it appears from Post #307 that JoshGray has returned unbidden, without being "bothered."
Still, I think my arguments and ideas pretty firmly sit me in the "apologist" camp, even though I don't feel I'm apologizing for anything. -Erika
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