[Illbay]

There is something so unbecoming about "the trouble with the sexes" threads here.

Especially since the whole issue is a red herring to begin with. There are really no "men good/women bad" or "women good/men bad" scenarios being played out generally.

The fact is that a good person is a good person--of whatever sex. And that most of the "troubles" stem not from the makeup of the chromosomes, but the makeup of the soul.

We are having problems as a society not because men are "lazy and eternally childish," or because women are "mercurial and impossible to please," but because too many of us have forgotten why we were put here on this earth to begin with.

Our pursuit of self-aggrandizement and self-"actualization" (in short, our preoccupation with "self") is what ultimately is beneath and behind all this post-modern angst.

[HairOfTheDog]

Good luck on this thread. And remembering why we are here. Looking at the other posts on this thread so far, I am remembering why I am *not* here! Yuck!

[weikel]

Especially since the whole issue is a red herring to begin with

No its not. You've never met any foreign gals. Generally they are on a higher plane of existence then American women.

[boris]

"We are having problems as a society not because men are "lazy and eternally childish," or because women are "mercurial and impossible to please," but because too many of us have forgotten why we were put here on this earth to begin with."

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A woman sees a store: "HUSBAND DEPT. STORE"

She walks in and sees only an elevator. Pushes button 1. Elevator stops at first floor: "Wealthy Husbands," it announces. She decides that's good but maybe better on 2. "Second floor, Wealthy Husbands who also are romantic."

She decides to try 3. "Third floor. Wealthy, romantic, husbands who help with the housework."

Hey, let's try 4. "Wealthy, romantic, helpful, and great with the kids. Wonderful fathers."

So she goes for 5 (last button). When the elevator stops, it says, "Fifth floor. There are no husbands here. This floor exists only to prove that some women will never be satisfied!"

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I had a long talk with myself after several disastrous relationships. "Whatever you got, they don't want; whatever they want, you haven't got," was my conclusion. As the bumper-sticker says, "I feel much better since I gave up hope."

Hope, you will recall, was the last thing to emerge from Pandora's box...and some think the cruelest.

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Someone asked me what women represent to me. I hesitated not an instant. "An infinite source of emotional pain," was my reply, and I see no reason to change it. Now a confirmed bachelor, 51, sick, and ugly, I sometimes actually feel relieved that all the sturm und drang is past.

--Boris