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To: WhiskeyPapa
I don't see anything inconsistent with what President Lincoln told the rebel authorities.

ROFLMAO.

Two hundred recruits and the 65 men in Sumter were not going to faze the rebels. I don't know exactly, but I bet there were at least 10,000 armed rebels in and around Charleston.

Those 200 were not all the troops and that is a moot point anyway, as even adding ten extra troops and the ammunition would make Lincoln a liar.

Maybe a source on that can be cited.

It's from the "Official Records", Series One, Volume One, "Operations in Charleston Harbor", Chapter One, page 236. See, I, unlike you, can respond to requests for sources. Hmmmmm.....

General Scott definitely told the president that at least 20,000 men would be required to open the port.

And other officers said less. There were many different plans submitted and discussed, Scott's was but one of them.

It's -so- funny how hard the neo-rebs work to catch ol' Honest Abe in a lie.

LOL - It's -so- easy for anyone to do it. And -much- funnier to watch you deny the record, panic and then flood the thread with things that either disprove your own point or have nothing to do with the topic.

549 posted on 01/29/2003 3:37:08 PM PST by thatdewd (nam et ipsa scientia potestas est)
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To: thatdewd
Maybe a source on that can be cited.

It's from the "Official Records", Series One, Volume One, "Operations in Charleston Harbor", Chapter One, page 236. See, I, unlike you, can respond to requests for sources. Hmmmmm.....

I asked for a source for the number of rebel troops in Charleston.

I said yesterday that General Scott advised Lincoln that 20,000 troops would be necessary to subdue the rebels in Charelston.

Per "Days of Defiance" by Maury Klien, Scott actually said 5,000 regulars, 20,000 volunteers and six months would be necessary.

Lincoln had no call to provoke war at Charleston, or anywhere else.

Lincoln always held out the hand of conciliation to the rebels. That is partly why he revoked General Fremont's and Butler's emancipation proclamations in 1862.

That is why he told General Grant to "let 'em up easy" regarding the defeated Army of Northern Virginia. --That-- is why he supported offering $400,000,000 in bonds to the rebel states in February, 1865 -- a time when he held all the cards -- . President Lincoln always wanted peace, but he was willing to fight for the principles of representative government and equal rights for all men.

That is why he was bitterly opposed by the rebels, and that is why his memory is attacked today.

Lincoln in 1860.

Walt

570 posted on 01/30/2003 6:54:26 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa (To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men)
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