AMERICA - The Right Way!! (Day 691) [Remember the Trade Center!!]

Various News Sources and FReepers | December 12, 2002 | All of Us

[Chairman_December_19th_Society]

We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail!

Good morning!! Do not let the victims of the attacks on New York and Washington, nor the brave members of our Nation's military who have given their lives to protect our freedom, die in vain!!

WAR ON TERROR ALERT-- The Pravda is writing this morning the Adminstration has credible evidence that Al Qa'eda took possession of a chemical weapon, containing VX nerve gas, in either October or November from a middle eastern country, which was named. The country? IRAQ!

In a related issue, the President has ordered the military to receive smallpox innoculations, and the shots will be made available to the American public for anyone who wants them.

Otherwise...

Had power this morning! Yippee! Had three separate outages yesterday, each between 1 and 1 1/2 hours. The last coming in the evening. The morning commute was treacherous - a lot of water had refrozen over the evening, so it was very slow going.

North Korea has announced they will bring back on line an old-style nuclear reactor they had planned on decommissioning. Their reasoning is the plant is necessary because the United States has suspended oil shipments.

China, meanwhile, is expected to try and urge her neighbor (North Korea) to adopt a "different behavior."

A report shows that up to 70% of '911' calls placed from cell phones were in error. One of the leading causes is programming '911' as a speed dial number.

For AMERICA - The Right Way, I remain yours in the Cause, the Chairman.

[Utah Girl]

Cool! Isn't the card beautiful? I love the Bible verse too. Just a classy card, just like President and Laura Bush.

[A Citizen Reporter]

It is a beautiful card, indeed. BTW, do you know what program I need to run the Barney video from? This thing is asking me questions that I don't know the answers to, LOL!

[Utah Girl]

You need Real Player. The website is probably realplayer.com.

[Dog]

I didn't get a card........:-(

[Utah Girl]

Sheesh, I am sitting here reading an article from Newsweek (I know, I know). It is about marriage and divorce, and how divorce doesn't affect the children nearly as much as has been portrayed in the media. And the article tells the story of this family, the woman who says she is a better mother since she left...And here was the reason for their divorce:
"Eli was more than 50 percent of this marriage, in terms of dealing with the kids," Debbie says, and as a father, "he couldn't have been more wonderful." Yet there were signs of trouble between them that she saw, but didn't know how to read.

Even now, it's hard to describe precisely what was wrong. You could call it a lack of connection, she says, which was a word she used in counseling a few years before the separation, but "what does that mean?" She understood "on a primal level" that there was something missing in her marriage, a kind of emotional understanding and support that she hadn't, at first, even known that she needed. She tried to get the message through to Eli.

But they could never get to the part where change occurred.

"I think when she first brought it up, I had inklings of 'Maybe she's right,' " Eli says. "But I didn't want to admit it. Because I didn't want to be divorced." Since then, he's developed kind of a shorthand for explaining the problem: They never learned how to be best friends. "I can't give Debbie what she's looking for," he says. "She's looking for a connection, a feeling of knowing exactly what the person needs and wants, and I--I don't know if I'll ever have that with anybody. But I don't have it with Debbie."

For years, she wrestled with the idea of leaving. She worried about "the selfishness of it--could I put myself before the girls?"--and after eight or nine months of not very helpful counseling sessions, first on her own and then with Eli, she decided to stick it out. But as the ensuing months went by, she found herself wondering, "Can I do this forever?" And she asked herself what she'd say to a grown-up daughter in a similarly unhappy situation. "I would never want their children to suffer," she says. "But I think people have one shot at life."

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I'm just sitting here shaking my head. The precipitating factor in their divorce is when a friend's teenage son dies, and Eli can't comfort Debbie properly. And I'm sitting here thinking "Come on, Debbie, Eli does not read minds, nor does any other man out there. Get a clue!!!" This is one of the more depressing articles I have read in awhile.

[Utah Girl]

I'm sorry. :(

[Miss Marple]

Oh, well, yuck. That is why I quit going to a lot of women's groups. They are self-selecting for whiners who don't have a clue. (Not all women, of course. In fact, I daresay not even most women. But it does seem like I run into women like this at women's Bible studies and such.)

[Utah Girl]

I know that marriage is tough, even for soulmates. But to get divorced because your husband doesn't have "a feeling of knowing exactly what the person needs and wants." I think I am going to go watch the Barneycam again so that I can smile...:)

[gulfcoast6]

Please, step back and take a deep breath. Lord Knows I know how you feel, I lay in my bed a night sometimes and just yell out to my wife, the hurt is so deep. I will continue to pray with and for you and please, look at all the good times you had.

[gulfcoast6]

UG, nothing is tough about marriage at all, you work things out when necessary and you share, in happeness and sadness.

[Dog]

Night all.

[gulfcoast6]

I'm not far behind you, I am tired, worn out to be exact, so its a Nite, nite, don't let the bed bugs bite.

[Northern Yankee]

Hey Deej...

Hang in there.

I have been there, and I know the things you're dealing with. (My father has been dead for over 20 years, and I still miss him terribly.)

There are times though I will hear my father's laugh in a dream, or he'll be telling a joke, and I wake up smiling. In many ways your father always be with you.

Prayers, and love sent your way.

Now let me get something off my chest...

I am just a little puzzled over this Trent Lott episode. (Believe me I am no fan of Trent Lott... I thought he weaseled out of the impeachment big time, and never followed his sworn duty to uphold the Constitution, but then again, not many senators, or congressmen did.)

But I listened to what Trent Lott said at Strom's birthday bash on C-Span over the weekend, before all this garbage came out, and I never got the impression he was in any way endorsing or advocating segregation.

Even Rush has been coming down on him, and I can't help but wonder why we are even applying today's norms and values to things that happened 50 years ago? It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. The times dictate the values of the people. We as a Country have grown because of it, but we learn as we go.

We all know that Strom was a democrat at the time as well, and eventually changed his position on segregation, just like most people did. Now are we going to indict the entire south because of things that happened 50 years ago?... Of course not. Lott was there to honor a man's service to this country, and said some things that I thought were innocent enough. This whole firestorm is just lunacy. People have just lost their minds on this whole thing, and yet concervatives are getting suckered into this whole damned debate, when this just should not be an issue. There was no advocacy of segregation. I think Mark Levin said it best when he called it selective moral outrage.

The leap of logic is just stunning to me. Now let me take this same leap, and look at comments made at Algore.

A few days ago, Algore was complaining about how Fox News Network was owned and financed by big money conservatives. Now if I use the same logic that has been used against Trent Lott, I could say that Algore was against free speech, and freedom.

He opposes conservatives owning and putting out their views on FOX does he not?...

So in the Trent Lott applied logic, he must think that only liberal views should be presented, and conservative views should not. I guess with that applied logic we could say that Algore is in favor of tyranny, since Tyranny opposed freedom of thought. Therefore Al must oppose freedom at all levels, and would endorse a tryannical government, and should step down from public life. (Turn around's fair play?...)

I don't think we'll be hearing that debate though...

Anyway... maybe someone can educate me on this, because either I missed something else Trent Lott said, or this whole thing is a completely set up to take down a republican, and tarnish all conservatives as racist. Either way I find it completely offensive.

[jtill]

Deej, thank you so very much for your cleansing rant!

I couldn't tell you the number of times I have wanted to scream and stamp my feet at some of the things people say when you have lost a loved one. AND, you are exactly right - what difference does age make?

Prayers continue for you and your family. (((((DJ)))))

[Northern Yankee]

Hey UG...

I read the same article.

I thought the woman was incredibly selfish. Marriage, and parenthood is about sacrificing your needs and wants for the good of your family. That's where you really grow up, and learn about giving to others is more important than the things you want for yourself.

She commented how its now nice because her grown up daughter and she are now friends. Howe nice, but when children are young they need committed parents.

It was just stunning to me.

[Miss Marple]

It is not that Lott was a democrat. He ran for president as a Dixiecrat (a third party) and the major portion of their platform was states' rights with an emphasis on segregation. In that context, saying that Mississippi had voted for Strom and that if everyone else had that a lot of problems we have today wouldn't have happened is a dangerous and foolish thing to say.

Lott is a good senator for Mississippi, but he does have a way of putting his foot in his mouth. In addition, he has bollixed up his apology by issuing it in dribs and drabs in a variety of venues, beginning with his first statement implying that this was no big deal.

A great deal of this furor has been manufactured by the press and the democrats. However, it does seem to me that one who is a majority leader should be a bit more in tune with both history and how the press operates.

As I told kayak, I have decided to quit worrying about this and trust the President to handle this in the appropriate way. His speech today included a public repudiation of Senator Lott's words by name, and also of anyone who thinks that segregation was a good thing.

Hopefully the situation will be defused, and we can get on with the business of passing legislation on the Republican agenda.

[Northern Yankee]

Ok... That helps me understand this a little more.

Again though... I still think its a much ado about nothing!

Thanks!

[Miss Marple]

I should have caught my typo...THURMOND ran on the Dixiecrat ticket.

From our point of view, it is much ado about nothing. From a black person's point of view, perhaps it is a bigger deal.

[LBKQ]

No need to apologize, Deej! My Dad died last March, and I can tell you that the sadness is still there. I cried hard when I read about your last hours with your Dad......They were similar to mine. I still cry when I look at his picture. I hate it! It stinks and always will! I have friends who have lost both parents, and I can't even imagine that. Those of us who are blessed with close families should be thankful, I know. I am. I've come to the conclusion that the hurt will never go away.
Take care, sweetie. It's important to find joy each day. It's there, too.

[lysie]

Lott's foot is in his mouth too often, however, the double standards are staggering....

After the 1954 Supreme Court ruling that outlawed segregation, Mr. Talmadge predicted "blood will run in Atlanta's streets." He voted against the 1964 civil rights and the 1965 voting rights bills. In 1975, however, he was named Man of the Year by predominantly black Morris Brown College

HERMAN TALMADGE (1913-2002): Death of a political legend

Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.) "He was able to change and adjust to the times. I believe he was the first senator from the state of Georgia to hire an African-American on his staff. As a matter of fact, he invited me down to the Talmadge farm in Lovejoy many years ago when I was head of the Voter Education Project.

"He was a very engaging person. He came from the Old South, but he grew, especially after the signing of the Civil Rights Act of '64 and '65, he made the adjustment.

"He made a lasting contribution to Georgia and to the nation. He will be greatly missed by the people of Georgia and the nation and must be looked upon as one of the outstanding politicians of our time."