The Guild 11-1-2002 54 shopping days until Christmas!

[lodwick]

Our system is so corrupt that it is laughable - here in LBJ country, down in Hidalgo County, they'e found 16,000 illegal or dead voters good to go tomorrow...details at 10:00pm.

[BigWaveBetty]

The Games have Begun.

But we will win!

Good Morning! Thought I'd share this with you, perhaps to get your hopes up for the future. Found this at USNews.

Is the Nation Trending Republican? [snip]
Generation X.
Evidence comes from an August Washington Post-Kaiser Family Foundation-Harvard poll looking at different generations. The youngest voters were most Republican, the oldest most Democratic. Voters under 30 identified themselves as Republican by 30 percent to 26 percent. Interestingly, the gender gap virtually disappears among these generation X-ers: Young women who grew up in a feminist America don't seem as moved by abortion or "choice" as baby boom women. And young voters are much less statist. Fully 61 percent favor individual investment accounts in Social Security, while 67 percent of the elderly are opposed. Similarly, 58 percent of gen X favor school vouchers, while 54 percent of the elderly are opposed. [snip]

I have been noticing this trend myself. My daughter, fstcwgrl - republican, married a republican, all her friends from high school - republican, and now I think my son is starting to lean in the republican direction.

He and I were talking about Social Security the other day and he was outraged at how the system works. He's looking forward to voting in the 2004 election. :-)

A side note: We were talking about how the media and dems like to make out that GWB is dumb. Out of the blue he told me that he didn't understand why they labeled Ronald Reagan the same way. He went on to tell me that he had read some of Reagan's speeches and found him to be a very intelligent man. I was so proud of him! Then we had the talk about how the media and dems label most all republicans as stupid.

Concerning your priest being upset with you on your death penalty stance, I'm guessing your parish isn't one of the ones that's full of democrats? See, I've never understood why Catholics would vote dem because of their stance on abortion.

So for me, ask your priest why it's ok to vote dem when the dems platform is mostly about keeping abortion rights for women, not to mention partial birth abortion, which in my opinion is much worse than putting criminals to death.

[lodwick]

Girl groups of the 60's

[Iowa Granny]

What????? No Supremes??? I guess maybe they're resting.

[mountaineer]

Looks like even nonpartisan politics can get ugly. I'm the vice-chair of our town's planning commission, and the chairman just advised me that one of our own members is going around town accusing us of "doing the mayor's bidding" with regard to our attempt to draft an amended zoning ordinance. Earlier, some were accusing us of being in the pocket of the local millionaire. Of course, the problem with this theory is that I don't have the slightest idea of what Mr. Millionaire or the mayor actually want the new ordinance to say. They've never suggested anything to me. Oh well, this too shall pass.

[mountaineer]

Page Six reports Babs Streisand's latest insanity:

She's quoted bogus Shakespearean passages, misspelled the name of Sen. Dick Gephardt, and issued a position paper identifying Saddam Hussein as the "president of Iran." Now liberal activist Barbra Streisand is privately saying that Sen. Paul Wellstone's plane crash was "no accident."

"I was shocked but, knowing a bit about her, not surprised by her statement," a witness told The Post's Braden Keil. "She said there's more to this than meets the eye."

Wellstone, his wife and daughter, and five others died on Oct. 25 in a small plane crash as they were making campaign stops in his home state of Minnesota. If his replacement, Walter Mondale, doesn't win tomorrow's election, the Democratic Party could lose conrol of the Senate.

Streisand expressed her paranoid conspiracy theory to an audience of interior designers bidding on the chance to decorate a planned addition to her Malibu estate.

The singer, who recently sold her triplex on Central Park West for half of what she originally asked three years ago, gave up looking for another apartment in New York and is sending her furniture out west, where she is building a separate building to house the antique items.

"She's asked five top West Coast designers to bid on a project to incorporate her New York furniture into a farmhouse-like addition on her Malibu estate," said the source.

In a letter to the five candidates bidding for the job, she tells the prospects she won't have time to discuss anything until after the election.

"She then says they better be voting Democratic and goes into a long political missive about reproductive choice, the Supreme Court, the environment and the power of the right wing," adds the source.

Babs' Web site - which hawks everything from soup mugs to golf balls - consists largely of her political statements, with a big section defending her screw-ups.

Last year, her site urged fans to be more energy-efficient even while she criss-crossed the country on fossil fuel-sucking private jets, roamed the roads in gas-guzzling limos and SUVs, and vacationed on big power boats.

Streisand also urged her fellow Americans to set air conditioners at 78 degrees. One source told Keil that Babs kept the 16 rooms in her unoccupied Central Park West triplex as cold as a meat locker.

And don't forget the time Streisand urged everyone to conserve energy by hanging laundry outside on lines, rather than use electric clothes dryers. But when asked if Streisand herself was using a backyard clothesline, her spokesman said: "She never meant that it necessarily applied to her."

[mountaineer]

This is more than a little gross (also from Page Six):

GARY Condit liked the thrill of public sex, according to Susie Borges, a community worker in Modesto, Calif., who claims she had a kinky, three-year affair with the ex-California congressman from 1988 to 1991.

In "Sex, Power and Murder: Chandra Levy and Gary Condit - the Affair that Shocked America" (AMI Books) by National Enquirer reporters David Wright, Don Gentile and Nicholas Maier, Borges said Condit told her his wife, Carolyn, was mentally ill and he could never bring her anywhere for fear she would embarrass him.

Whenever Borges asked Condit if he was scared of being approached by constitutents when he was with her, Condit told her: "I'll act like it's not me . . . No one will believe them. I'm like a god where I come from."

Condit enjoyed taking Borges to Paragary's - a Sacramento restaurant where politicians would bring their mistresses. Condit put her leg on his shoulder so he could look up her dress, and also recalled: "He loved bending me over the boardroom table, knowing he could be caught at any moment."

Borges also got to play with Condit's "couples kit" - which included a blindfold and handcuffs. "He felt untouchable . . . He'd say 'I'm the perfect guy . . . I'm going to run for president one day, and no one is going to ruin that.' " Condit's office had no comment.

[mountaineer]

Former President Clinton laughs while seated with the Rev. Griffin Davis, of West Palm Beach, as Florida Democratic gubernatorial candidate Bill McBride speaks during an open air worship service at the MLK Jr. Memorial Sunday, Nov. 3. 2002, in West Palm Beach, Fla.

[lodwick]

Don Imus was reporting this am that Babs further stated, twice, that W was responsible for Wellstone's plane crash in order to regain the Senate - even the liberal I-man was hooting at this one and really hammering her for such statements.

One more day guys - if we can, lettuce roll.

[mountaineer]

Having tired of stumping for loser Dem politicians, the Harlem Globetrotter is back to his (second) favorite pasttime:

Bill Clinton is in Mississauga this morning as part of a lucrative public speaking gig that has made the former U.S. president a frequent visitor to Canada.

Since delivering his first post-presidential speaking engagement in Canada in the spring of 2001, Mr. Clinton has done brisk business as the featured speaker at close to a dozen diverse events across the country, including a fundraising dinner at the home of a wealthy Toronto couple for a Jewish charity, a social entrepreneurship fundraiser in Calgary and various hospital fundraisers.

He typically commands a fee of about US $125,000. The fee for this morning's breakfast meeting speech is being covered by London Drugs, a major retail chain in Western Canada. Mr. Clinton will be speaking to about 1,300 executives from the company's various corporate partners at an annual appreciation event. National Post

[lodwick]

[Iowa Granny]

If the Debate Happens

Fox News is reporting an attempt to stop the debate if they don't allow the Independent and Green Party candidates to participate.

I think Fox is going to cover it.

Also note. Jesse Ventura has called a press conference and is about to announce his appointment of an Independent to Wellstone's Senate Seat until the MN elections are finalized.

[lodwick]

I heard CNN would carry the debate - if it happens.

[Iowa Granny]

Well, Jesse is trying to steal the Debate Thunder. Press Conference being broadcast now on Fox

[Iowa Granny]

Who is Dean Barkley? I read earlier, Ventura would appoint someone named Stone. Now I hear him say something about Barkley. Minnesota Freepers, please explain.

[mountaineer]

Is this the guy:

Dean Barkley was appointed director of Minnesota Planning by Governor Jesse Ventura in January 1999. A leader and one of the key developers of the Minnesota Reform Party, Barkley ran for the U.S. House in 1992 and the U.S. Senate in 1994 and 1996. An attorney since 1977, he practiced law at Palmer, Hanjani, Barkley and Barley in Loretto before coming to Minnesota Planning. He also is a director of the Minnesota Compact, which advocates clean campaigns, and has been a director of Common Cause.

[Iowa Granny]

I dunno if this is him or not. Imagine there could be a dozen Blakleys out there.

Reading his background, it sounds like you've probably come up with the right guy. Nice work!

Mondull is making a much better showing in the debate than I thought him capable of,,, (never end a sentence in a preposition, unless you are in a hurry and under a great deal of stress).

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

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