The Sniper: Cherokee/Islam Connection and the Duck in A Noose Tale

Figh.net ^ | 10/26/02 | ASP

[ASP]

Evil weaves its way into the unlikeliest of places. Just did a google search on Cherokee and Islam and lookee here..

In the Light of the Quran and Sunnah A Native Americans journey to Islam Digging For The Red Roots

By Mahir Abdal Razzaq El

My name is Mahir Abdal Razzaq El and I am a Cherokee Blackfoot American Indian who is Muslim. I am known as Eagle Sun Walker. I serve as a Pipe Carrier Warrior for the North Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians in New York City. There are other Muslims in our group. For the most part, not many people are aware of the Native American contact with Islam that began over a thousand years ago by some of the early Muslim travelers who visited us. Some of these Muslim travelers ended up living up among our people.

For most Muslims and non-Muslims of today , this type of information is unknown and has never been mentioned in any of the the history books. There are many documents, treaties, legislation and resolutions that were passed between 1600s and 1800s that show that Muslims were in fact here and were very active in the communities in which they lived. Treaties such as Peace and Friendship that was signed on the Delaware River in the year 1787 bear the signatures of Abdel-Khak and Muhammed Ibn Abdullah. This treaty details our continued right to exist as a community in the areas of commerce, maritime, shipping, current form of government at that time which was i accordance with Islam. According to a federal court case from the Continental Congress, we help put the breath of life into the newly framed constitution. All of the documents are presently in the National Archives as well as the Library of Congress.

If you have access to records in the state of South Carolina , read the Moors sundry Act of 1790. In a future article, Inshallah, i will go into more details about the various tribes , their languages; in which some are influenced by Arabic, Persian, Hebrew words. almost all of the tribes vocabulary include the word "Allah" The traditional dress code for Indian women includes the kimah and long dresses. For men , standard fare is turbans and long tops that come down to the knees. If you were to look at any of the old books on Cherokee clothing up until the time of 1832, you will see the men wearing turbans and the women wearing long head coverings. The last Cherokee chief who had a Muslim name was Ramadhan Ibn Wati of the Cherokees in 1866.

Cities across the United States and Canada bear names that are of Indian and Islamic derivation. Have you ever wondered what the name Tallahassee means? It means that He Allah will deliver you sometime in the future.

[lexington minuteman 1775]

puttin on my tinfoil hat and moving to my bunker.BWAHAHAHAHA

[EggsAckley]

learn sump'in ever day, I do de-clare!

[Mamzelle]

Sunnah? That's Sunni. NAh!! All us Cherokees are Shi'ites. You can tell by the way we only scalp with the left hand.

[ASP]

Could someone please explain what it means when you get a message saying, "This post has been moved to chat"? Tried finding a chat site without success. Does this mean a post has been moved to the gulag? Many thanks.

[Cagey]

Does this mean a post has been moved to the gulag?

Bingo!

But then again, this is a weird story you posted and it probably belongs here in the gulag. It sounds like one of those Tonto Kowalski jokes.

[ASP]

Thanks for answering, Cagey. I don't quite understand why it was maoved to the gulag. We've all been trying to figure out the meaning of the snipers' "Duck In A Noose" tale, which, as we discovered, is a Cherokee story. And of course much has been made of the fact that John Muhammad the sniper is Muslim. So it seemed reasonable to look up an Islam/Cherokee connection...I was surprised it came up so easily in Google. So I am indeed puzzled as to why it was banished to noman's land.

[WFTR]

I don't know of any documented contact between the Muslims and the Cherokees from over a thousand years ago, but there is documentation that Sir Francis Drake left maybe a thousand or fifteen hundred Turks on the shores of Virginia in the 1500's. There is some evidence to suggest that these people moved inland and had contact with various Indian tribes. However, the notion that they maintained their Muslim religion is a stretch. The evidence also suggests that they intermarried with the natives and other stranded folks from the Old World and became a different people. I've written a long essay about them at The Melungeons: Appalachian Mystery.

WFTR
Bill

[JudyB1938]

You might have missed this. Interesting, in light of the fact that I believe Fell, et al, are correct. IIRC, this is the first time I've read anything like this, outside of that group.

[blam]

"this is the first time I've read anything like this, outside of that group."

Thanks. All of us thinkers are not suprised by early contact from all over, even a thousand years ago. Look for a Phoenician connectiom.

[blam]

Was America A Phoenecian Colony?

[EggsAckley]

I am absolutely thrilled to find your essay waiting for me this morning. Wonderfully written, and well researched. I've NEVER heard of Melungians, and now I want to read more. Thanks so much for the link.

It's funny; as I was reading I kept thinking of Elvis, and voila! there he was!
Gives a new meaning to WC Fields' old quote "there's an Ethopian in the fuel supply."


Thanks so much for the link.

[Cagey]

Thanks for the ping, Bill.

I visited your site for the first time and bookmarked it. I like your compassionate reference.

[WFTR]

Thank you very much for your kind reply. If you are interested in learning more about them, I'd highly recommend Dr. Kennedy's book. It's the best place to start for this kind of study.

WFTR
Bill

[EggsAckley]

Thanks, I will.

[WFTR]

I'm glad that you liked my site. It's always encouraging to hear that someone likes it.

[tessalu]

Frankly, I did not know that any American Indian was so stupid!