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To: DWPittelli
At best, you have shown that religion is useful for keeping people moral. (A debatable position.) You have not shown it to be true.

I think history shows it to be true. Look at what has been going on in Africa since independence. The numerous amounts of mass murders that have occurred just about everywhere there. Look at the actions of Communist governments, at the actions of Nazism, at the actions ot the French revolutionaries, at the actions of the savage hordes from Asia, at the actions of the followers of the evil prophet Mohammed. Look at the total disregard for life shown by all the above and you will have your proof.

281 posted on 10/13/2002 5:24:55 AM PDT by gore3000
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To: gore3000
As I have said: "At best, you have shown that religion is useful for keeping people moral. (A debatable position.) You have not shown it to be true."

You constantly reiterate your point that civilisation has gone downhill due to atheism, equating religion's utility with its truthfulness, and ignoring my point (e.g., Santa Claus may be a useful myth for keeping children nice, but that does not make Santa real). If you propose that any version of science and prehistory that is useful must also be true, please do so explicitly, else accept that your arguments about the decline of civilisation have nothing to do with the truth or falsity of evolution.

Further, you have continually refused to propose any specific Creationist version of prehistory, knowing, I suspect, that there is no possible such Creationist version which is not many times more problematic than the reigning evolutionary paradigm.

I kick myself for wasting my time in the belief that you actually might care to debate the nature of prehistorical reality, as opposed to what you want to be true, or what some authority (Newton, the Bible) stated is true. If I do so any longer, it is not in the hope of having an actual debate with you Creationists, who appear to be postmodernist nihilists (the truth is whatever you want it to be), but so that those in the middle will not be swayed by an absence of a response to your continuing idiocy.

293 posted on 10/13/2002 7:22:34 AM PDT by DWPittelli
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To: gore3000
I think history shows it to be true... Look at the actions of Communist governments, at the actions of Nazism, at the actions ot the French revolutionaries, at the actions of the savage hordes from Asia, at the actions of the followers of the evil prophet Mohammed. Look at the total disregard for life shown by all the above and you will have your proof.

Ironically, when you make this particular pseudo-argument, you sound like you've been reading too many French Communist philosophers, believing as you do that truth is a subjective concept defined by who believes in it and who benefits from it.

I'll reiterate: Once again, you have at best shown that the Christian religion is useful for keeping people from committing mass murder. You have not shown it to be true. And you are even further from showing that its most fundamentalist interpretations, including Creationism, are true.

492 posted on 10/14/2002 5:39:25 PM PDT by DWPittelli
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