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Evidence Disproving Evolution
myself | 10/11/02 | gore3000

Posted on 10/11/2002 9:02:01 PM PDT by gore3000

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To: Condorman
Whenever I see that slime, I know that you folk are over the barrel. Thanks for showing everyone that I am correct and you have no response for my scientific arguments. Bye loser.
581 posted on 10/15/2002 3:46:51 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: Junior
Interesting site, though I'm not sure what your point is

The point is that paleontology is not a science, it is absolute garbage. They change their assertions more often than the wind in Chicago. One day they indubitably , positively assert that one species descended from another and then the next day they assert that no, it descended from some other species just as indubitably, positively, etc. and anyone that does not believe them in a moron and should keep their trap shut. It is like the Communists, do not dare to repeat what they said yesterday or you will be shot.

582 posted on 10/15/2002 3:50:45 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: PatrickHenry
Patrickplasticplasterhenry...aka Galilee Galileo---

Trying to orbit science around darwin...

is like trying to put the sun in orbit around the moon---

HACKWARDS!

Darwin is an assteroid----klunker....

no fuel---lotta assh/slag!

Halebopps!


583 posted on 10/15/2002 4:16:14 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: gore3000
Re: "that slime"

Are you denying that you posted those words or that you were wrong? Those are your words. Verbatim. With links to the originals. Any enterprising individual can verify it for themselves.

Your capacity for self-delusion has reached record levels.
584 posted on 10/15/2002 4:53:19 PM PDT by Condorman
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To: Condorman
Your capacity for self-delusion has reached record levels.

I would say, rather, that "The exposure of your capacity for self-delusion has reached record levels."

But that record just keeps going up.

585 posted on 10/15/2002 5:44:08 PM PDT by balrog666
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To: Condorman
Your capacity for self-delusion has reached record levels.

Why don't you do something useful. Instead of dredging up old arguments from an old thread that have nothing to do with the subject at hand, namely evolution, answer the question I posed about the Thewissen study eliminating the Mesonychus and placing the Pakicetus, the alleged whale ancestor, far away from the Hippo, which DNA studies show as kissing cousin to the whale. Keep in mind it was no amateur wannabe that was so fooled by the Mesonychus but the world's Darwinian expert on whale evolution. The question is --- Where do you place the Pakicetus in relation to the whale and hippo? The problem for you would be the DNA evidence.

586 posted on 10/15/2002 5:49:11 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: gore3000
You wrote: You are giving a lot of ifs in there [in predicting that many mutations will persist]. First is [the mutation] has to be dominant, that's a 50/50 chance. Then it has to be beneficial, the odds of that is the big problem. As I explained, neutral mutations will almost certainly die off.

Of course there are a lot of ifs. I myself said that the vast majority of mutations will disappear. Your position is that evolution is impossible. Given 6,000,000 years to evolve from the point where man and chimp diverged, you have to claim not merely that most mutations will disappear, but that virtually all mutuations will disappear.

587 posted on 10/15/2002 5:54:24 PM PDT by DWPittelli
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To: balrog666
Hrm... maybe we're both correct?
588 posted on 10/15/2002 6:13:38 PM PDT by Condorman
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To: Condorman
Hrm... maybe we're both correct?

Sounds good to me!

589 posted on 10/15/2002 6:25:49 PM PDT by balrog666
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To: AndrewC
answer the question I posed about the Thewissen study eliminating the Mesonychus and placing the Pakicetus, the alleged whale ancestor, far away from the Hippo, which DNA studies show as kissing cousin to the whale.

Not my balliwick; ask Vade. Why don't you do something useful. Like offer an alternative theory for a change? You know, a theory? Supported by positive evidence, explaining the existing observations, and that makes unique predictions of future observations?

It's certainly more productive than deliberate obtuseness and snide sideline commentary. After all, if we're going to cast evolution aside, we'll need something useful to replace it.

590 posted on 10/15/2002 6:27:03 PM PDT by Condorman
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To: AndrewC
Instead of dredging up old arguments from an old thread that have nothing to do with the subject at hand, namely evolution,

Nearly forgot, the issue at hand was gore3000's inexplicable quarrel with two of Junior's statements. Particularly relevant to the exploration of this phenomenon are his prior displays of cognitive dissonance, evasion, denial of evidence, selective amnesia, and general megalomania-- what has been colorfully coined: "Holy Warrior Syndrome"

591 posted on 10/15/2002 6:34:02 PM PDT by Condorman
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To: Condorman
vape thought---quote!

"Ape-ancestry rejectionism? Tough! That's the way it happened."


592 posted on 10/15/2002 6:34:50 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Condorman
more vape...

vaperetros response...."ape ancestry rejectionism"..."get over it"!!!

f.C beat me too it! Your visceral, emotial reactions are irrelevant to the universe.

593 posted on 10/15/2002 6:37:30 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Condorman
Why don't you do something useful. Like offer an alternative theory for a change?

I am doing something useful. I am pointing out the ridiculous nature of your Darwininian nonsense. Not your balliwick[sic], but you sure tap-dance alot on the subject. I have offered different opinions. They are expressed by James Shapiro among others. But your B.S. folks don't spend one second on the data before calling it names. It is not snide to ask the question where do you place the Pakicetus? It is snide to bring in ellipses etc. You have no answer I take it. That is because the bones are hollow.

594 posted on 10/15/2002 6:38:38 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
heh heh CS Lewis had a similar blurb in Mere Christianity, I think.
595 posted on 10/15/2002 6:41:36 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: AndrewC
However, the analogy only goes so far... in the birth scenario, the boys have no actual choice, they will live, if all goes well, after the transition. In the scenario Christians believe in, we have the choice to spend eternity with the Creator, or without him.
596 posted on 10/15/2002 6:43:48 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: Condorman
Nearly forgot, the issue at hand was gore3000's inexplicable quarrel with two of Junior's statements.

That is because he, as you, did not/could not answer a straight forward question. This question arises because Darwinians put whale evolution embodied in the sequence from mesonychus to Flipper as evidence of Darwinian correctness and prediction. The "evidence" has been pretty well demolished. Now back up the claims of Darwinians or admit they are wrong.

597 posted on 10/15/2002 6:44:16 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: PatrickHenry
End of session placemarker.
598 posted on 10/15/2002 6:45:52 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: AndrewC
Again, fossil progression by the record not good evidence.(just because it looks good does not make it correct)

Do you even deny that Eohippus got larger and became the horse?

599 posted on 10/15/2002 6:59:14 PM PDT by DWPittelli
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To: DWPittelli
Do you even deny that Eohippus got larger and became the horse?

Absolutely. The eohippus was dead long before there was a horse. But I'm not talking about the horse nor the eohippus. I am talking about where the Pakicetus fits into the DNA tree. Are you willing to answer the question?

600 posted on 10/15/2002 7:01:24 PM PDT by AndrewC
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