Confederate Stuart was a much-admired personality

Public Opinion ^ | 05 October 2002 | CATHY MENTZER

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As commander of the Confederate Cavalry, Maj. Gen. J.E.B. Stuart was a larger-than-life figure best known today for his daring raids and reconnaissance missions -- at times in Union territory.

Despite his reputation for flamboyance and derring-do, James Ewell Brown Stuart was also an intelligent, well-educated, faithful husband and father who spent only a small part of his time as the Army of Northern Virginia's chief of cavalry raiding Northern territory, according to historians and students of his life.

[WhiskeyPapa]

Walt, my respect for you is immense but we have to agree to disagree on this one. Just like we agree to disagree on marines vs. Navy.

You mean Marines vs. navy. ;-)

Perhaps the worst part of the whole neo-reb phenomenon is the way that President Lincoln and General Sherman and the loyal Union men are vilified on FR, on newsgroups and websites. The League of the South website used to have a "humor" link that would take you to a website idealizing John Wilkes Booth.

Have I said anything worse --or untrue-- about Stuart than you read here about President Lincoln almost every day?

Walt

[Non-Sequitur]

Have I said anything worse --or untrue-- about Stuart than you read here about President Lincoln almost every day?

Of course not, but then again we don't have to stoop to their methods since we have facts on our side.

[WhiskeyPapa]

Of course not, but then again we don't have to stoop to their methods since we have facts on our side.

True enough.

Walt

[Heyworth]

But still, I think we can disagree on the cause that they fought for but still accept that most of those who fought for it did so honestly believing that they were right

And John Walker Lindh honestly believed in the righteousness of his cause, too. What do you call it when an officer of the United States Army resigns, then joins an army fighting against the United States Army? Honor? Or treason?

[Non-Sequitur]

And John Walker Lindh honestly believed in the righteousness of his cause, too. What do you call it when an officer of the United States Army resigns, then joins an army fighting against the United States Army? Honor? Or treason?

George Washington?

I don't condone the actions of the men in question here, but I understand that they may have been acting in what they thought was good faith. If men the likes of Ulysses Grant and Abraham Lincoln were prepared to accept that then that's good enough for me.

[1rudeboy]

Guderian and Rommel were losers as well. Yet their contributions to the doctrine of "mobile" combat are no less significant because they fought on the losing side.

[WhiskeyPapa]

Guderian and Rommel were losers as well. Yet their contributions to the doctrine of "mobile" combat are no less significant because they fought on the losing side.

They don't have a cult.

Walt

[ArrogantBustard]

I just love the smell of rotting, oily, ground-up fish.... heeeeeere, sharky, sharky...

[WhiskeyPapa]

I just love the smell of rotting, oily, ground-up fish.... heeeeeere, sharky, sharky...

Did it even occur to you to condemn a group that would have a link to a "humor" website idealizing John Wilkes Booth?

Walt

[WhiskeyPapa]

Guderian and Rommel were losers as well. Yet their contributions to the doctrine of "mobile" combat are no less significant because they fought on the losing side.

When you talk about Guderian and Rommel, professional military men who fought for a heinous regime that based its theories on racial superiority, you are perilously close to a parallel with Stuart, Lee and th rest, who also fought for a heinous regime based on racial superiority.

Walt

[1rudeboy]

They don't have a cult.

That is correct. But the existence of a cult should not prevent students of military history from learning of "successful" commanders. Furthermore, despite their idolatry of the cause, these cultists are more aware of U.S. history than your typical citizen. I see them as mostly harmless. Liberal-commie-identity-politics pukes are much more a threat to the legacy of, for example, Abraham Lincoln than these folks will ever be.

[ArrogantBustard]

I visited their website once; I concluded they are kooks. All of which is irrelevant. I have more respect for R. E. Lee et al. than for any of the major political figures of the late 1850s and early 1860s, Mr. Lincoln most certainly included.

To condemn as worthless 'losers' Gen'l Lee et al. because their side lost the war in which they fought sets an interesting and disturbing precedent. I live fairly close to Washington, DC. Please direct me to the Embassy of the Republic of Vietnam. I'd like to visit, pay my respects to the ambassador. I've a little problem, though. My nice ADC map doesn't show it. Perhaps you can help me out, here?

AB

[WhiskeyPapa]

I visited their website once; I concluded they are kooks. All of which is irrelevant. I have more respect for R. E. Lee et al. than for any of the major political figures of the late 1850s and early 1860s, Mr. Lincoln most certainly included.

Did President Lincoln deserve to be shot?

Walt

[LTCJ]

you are perilously close to a parallel with Stuart, Lee and the rest, who also fought for a heinous regime based on racial superiority.

Enough.

As opposed to be indistingushable from flaming geeks who do jumping jacks for fictitious regimes?

For God's sake, son, grow up.

[WhiskeyPapa]

I have more respect for R. E. Lee et al. than for any of the major political figures of the late 1850s and early 1860s, Mr. Lincoln most certainly included.

'Et al' meaning you support the slave holders vice non-slave holders, I suppose.

You might need a bigger boat.

Walt

[WhiskeyPapa]

That's me; I don't recall feeling that dour.

Walt

[ArrogantBustard]

Can you direct me to the Embassy of the RVN? Please? I'd really like to visit. Since you can't, perhaps you can tell me: is everyone who fought for the independance of the RVN a worthless loser?

I'm not snapping at your baited hook until you take a snap at mine. Rotten fish smells lovely, doesn't it?

[ArrogantBustard]

No kidding?!?! Are you really a space cadet?

[WhiskeyPapa]

you are perilously close to a parallel with Stuart, Lee and the rest, who also fought for a heinous regime based on racial superiority.

Enough.

As opposed to be indistingushable from flaming geeks who do jumping jacks for fictitious regimes?

For God's sake, son, grow up.

Was Nazism based on racial superiority? Yes.

Was the so-called CSA based on racial superiority? Yes.

Walt

[WhiskeyPapa]

I'm not snapping at your baited hook until you take a snap at mine. Rotten fish smells lovely, doesn't it?

I'd call it rotten fish to support the slave holders over non-slave holders.

Won't you even deny that was the import of your statement?

Walt