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The Guild 9-30-2002 Traitors to America

Posted on 09/30/2002 6:25:03 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty


Rep. Mike Thompson, D-California, left, and Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Washington, in Baghdad.


Former congressman David Bonior

"I think the president would mislead the American people." ~~ Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Washington

McDermott said these words while standing on Iraqi soil.

Contact these worthless scum and let them know what the majority of Americans think of their trip to Iraq.

McDermott's website
Thompson's website
Bonior
59 N. Walnut, Suite 305, Mt. Clemens, MI 48043-5677
(586) 469-3232 (not knowing if the email addy still works for Bonior, I called this number.
They still answer, "Congressman Bonior's office", I left a message.)

In case you're wondering where you've heard the name McDermott before, remember back to 1996.

Mr. McDermott on his way to Christmas shopping for his grandchildren, he and his wife just happened to intercept a phone conversation between Congressman John Boehner (R-Ohio) and House Speaker Newt Gingrich and others and then leaked the tape to the New York Times and other media.


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To: BigWaveBetty
Was this a Freep?

It most definitely was a Freep. The participants may not have known it, but it most surely was. And a fantastic one at that.

Giving away fake airline tickets!!! What a hoot!!

61 posted on 10/01/2002 4:04:24 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: BigWaveBetty; Hillary's Lovely Legs; All
I've been struggling to understand this New Jersey Senate Race mess, with Mr. T.

I know a lot of candidates who are falling behind in the polls. But, I don't know anyone else who is considering dropping out because of their low poll ratings.

What gives?
62 posted on 10/01/2002 4:07:48 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: BigWaveBetty
You ask why? Why? They are cowards and lemmings in Hollyweird, more worried about incurring the wrath of bitches like Babs than the public for opposing the ouster of Saddam.Do you recall how so many were outraged over Elia Kazan receiving an honourary Oscar, yet he was the patriot for exposing and condemning Commies back in the '50's, and yet he gets reviled by these weirdos??
63 posted on 10/01/2002 4:08:02 AM PDT by habs4ever
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To: BigWaveBetty
Whoever's tablecloth that is will probably want it back.

Why do they think a whiny display would help them? Because they are spoiled children with no concept of how real people make it in the world. Whining has gotten them their way in the past, and they think it will now too.

64 posted on 10/01/2002 4:08:04 AM PDT by pubmom
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To: habs4ever
I have to chuckle about Bab's *B* status. I remember seeing an interview a few years ago with Walter Matthau where he talked about the making of "Hello Dolly". He claimed she was a complete, total B word, so this apparently is nothing new.

I always liked Walter.

65 posted on 10/01/2002 4:12:15 AM PDT by pubmom
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To: pubmom
The story on O'Rielly was that a mother brought in her 11 year old daughter with abdominal pain and nausea. They couldn't find anything wrong so they did a pregnancy test. It came out positive so they sent the child to an OB/GYN.

By state law they should have called child protective services because a pregnant 11 year old is an obvious case of neglect. It then turns out that the impregnator is a 75 year old man and the mother knew about the situation. The state is now prosecuting the doctors for just shuffling the kid to the OB/GYN instead of reporting her to CPS.
66 posted on 10/01/2002 4:13:48 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: Iowa Granny
I got an interesting e-mail from the RNC. Looks like the law does not permit another candidate in place or Toricelli. The Torch needed to withdraw from the race 51 days before the election. The GOP is going to fight tooth and nail to make sure that the Dems in New Jersey follow the law.

The Dems can scream all they want, but they were running a scumbag crook for the seat and now they have no one. All the GOP wants them to do is to follow the Rule of Law.

I expect some long winded diatribes from the Clinton/Rottenbottom/Gore/Lieberman crowd.

So load up on barf bags. If the Guild needs to buy them in bulk and distribute them we can set up a fund, because I expect to see a lot of Terry McCauliff to be on the air.
67 posted on 10/01/2002 4:19:28 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
I saw that segment of O'Reilly.

Very, very troubling.
68 posted on 10/01/2002 4:19:53 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: BigWaveBetty
Pardon my fashion ignorance here, but is this dress supposed to give the illusion that Babs is singing from behind the living room sheers or a shower curtain?


69 posted on 10/01/2002 4:21:15 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Why isn't this case called...rape???
70 posted on 10/01/2002 4:22:25 AM PDT by habs4ever
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To: Iowa Granny
It takes much mental gymnastics to think like a dim.

It's all about keeping the majority. Oh and a chance to boo hoo that those mean, nasty republicans don't want to talk about the real issues. They're not concerned about you and your state, they're only concerned about those silly ethical things.

From what I've gleaned, the Torch is quite self serving so when the party came to him and said don't run, he told them to take a hike.

Now that it's clear he's toast, it's time to break out their slimy tatics.

Terry McAwful probably has bigger, badder friends than the Torch.

71 posted on 10/01/2002 4:26:35 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Mother needs to be flogged along with the dirty old coot, and with the non-reporting physicians.

This is too sick for words.

72 posted on 10/01/2002 4:29:14 AM PDT by pubmom
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To: habs4ever; Hillary's Lovely Legs
Why isn't this case called...rape???

That's what we'd like to know!

I think the most disgusting part of O'Reilly's interview with that scum attorney was when he claimed that they didn't notify the authorities but instead referred the mother to an OB/GYN was because of privacy. Sick perverted freaks!!

73 posted on 10/01/2002 4:33:03 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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Be right back... got to do some quick ironing.......
74 posted on 10/01/2002 4:34:27 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: Iowa Granny
HE NEVER LEVELED WITH N.J.

October 1, 2002 -- IN the end, Bob Torricelli's problem was one of hubris and arrogance. Which is why it was so ironic to hear him late yesterday blubbering on about his devotion to the people of New Jersey.

If he really cared so much for those who repeatedly sent him back to office, he might have considered leveling with them.

Instead, he stonewalled. He lied. He changed his story.

Torricelli apparently spent the last few years just lining his pockets with everything imaginable: expensive clocks, watches, furniture and clothing - not to mention cold cash.

In return, he provided political favors to benefactor David Chang, who by all accounts is as sleazy a character as the senator on whom he bestowed his largesse.

He might even have gotten away with that: The Justice Department, after a lengthy investigation, refused to bring charges against Torricelli - even though it concluded that Chang's allegations were credible.

But Torricelli (who claimed he'd been "publicly raped" by the investigation) refused - until it was far too late - to answer detailed questions about his finances. And he used every legal challenge in the book to keep the truth sealed until after the election.

Which is why, in the end, the only argument he could make on behalf of his re-election was that it was necessary in order to keep the Senate in Democratic hands. (Or, as one Democratic lobbyist put it some weeks back to the Trenton Times: "He may be a sleaze, but he's our sleaze.")

Consider: Torricelli spent months insisting angrily that he'd accepted no gifts from Chang, that "I have never, ever done anything to betray the trust of the people of New Jersey."

Indeed, when the feds declined to prosecute him, Torricelli declared himself "completely vindicated."

True, when the Senate Ethics Committee publicly admonished him, Torricelli said he accepted the panel's findings that he'd violated Senate rules by accepting gifts. But even then, he still insisted he'd never accepted any gifts.

Perhaps the final blow was the court-ordered release of a prosecution memo detailing Chang's allegations and describing them as "credible."

Even then, Torricelli tried to turn it around: He declared that, because the memo raised questions about Chang's behavior, it was proof positive that the allegations against him were completely unfounded.

But that just begged the question: If the memo worked so strongly in his favor, why did he unleash a legal barrage to keep it sealed?

By the same token, if - as Torricelli maintained - the Senate Ethics Committee accepted his explanations of Chang's gifts, why did he stubbornly refuse to make his closed-door testimony public?

In the end, Torricelli simply had too big of a credibility gap.

Which is why the most devastating GOP commercial used the senator's own words, from his first debate with opponent Doug Forrester: "The question is, who do you believe?" Torricelli asked - as the audience broke out in unrestrained laughter.

And that was the problem with his emotional plea yesterday in which he asked, "When did we become such an unforgiving people?"

"I remember an America," said Torricelli, "when a person asked for forgiveness, it was given."

But Bob Torricelli never asked the people of New Jersey for forgiveness - until it was much too late. So he ends up paying the ultimate political price for his self-obsessed haughtiness.

Three years ago, Torricelli published a book that contained what he called the most "extraordinary speeches" of the 20th century.

In it, he included Bill Clinton's semi-apology to the nation about Monicagate - as well as the more forthcoming draft that Clinton refused to deliver and which, many believe, might have forestalled his eventual impeachment.

In an interview, Torricelli said he included both "because it allows people to ask the question how history might have been different if he had chosen to apologize in a different way."

Today, much the same question can be asked about Bob Torricelli. Maybe he should have read his own book more closely.

75 posted on 10/01/2002 5:06:30 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: Iowa Granny
John Podhoretz

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The ethical questions do not begin and end with Torricelli. In Iowa, Democratic Sen. Tom Harkin should be a shoo-in for reelection. But he may not be any longer, because someone close to him got caught leaking information from within the camp of his GOP rival Greg Ganske.

Harkin denied knowing anything about it, but after his campaign manager's resignation, the senator was forced to apologize. Ganske went after Harkin aggressively in a debate this weekend.

What matters here is not whether Ganske can actually defeat Harkin in Iowa - he probably can't - but rather that in two different regions of the country at the same time, Democrats are looking sleazy. [snip]

76 posted on 10/01/2002 5:14:58 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
I can hear the defense now: "Rape of children and their resulting pregnancies is a private matter."
77 posted on 10/01/2002 5:22:55 AM PDT by pubmom
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To: BigWaveBetty; *The GUILD
If...sometime within the last 7 days a falsehood has been written in print, spoken on radio, or aired on television about Ms. Streisand...the TRUTH ALERT will contain a statement made by Ms. Streisand and/or her representatives to correct that falsehood. Current falsehood corrections will appear in the section called "Truth Alert." After one week all "Truth Alerts" will be transferred to the Truth Archive. A daily visit to both will keep you up-to-date with these additions.

Do people really visit Bab's site for TheTruth? Hilarious.
78 posted on 10/01/2002 5:23:58 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs; Iowa Granny
Correct on NJ law and the turd torch - it will be just like FL. How far will they carry it before some court, some day, rules that laws actually mean something? It depends on what your definition of 51 days is - bentmember.
79 posted on 10/01/2002 5:29:35 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: lodwick
Weird people!

It had been DICTATED BY HER ON THE PHONE as she was rehearsing her performance at the recent gala to raise funds for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. Unfortunately, it was taken down and interpolated by a new employee who sent out a first draft before it had been reviewed or checked for spelling.

Ahhh yes, blame the little people. What escapes Ms. Babs is grown ups take the responsibility for their pee-ons mistakes.

USNews poll

What do you think about the three House members who went to Baghdad and decried the administration for providing little evidence of a threatening Iraqi arms buildup?

• They're right and Bush should slow the march to war. 19%
• They're wrong and Bush shouldn't listen to the critics. 8%
• They're Saddam's dupes and should stay in Baghdad. 73%

80 posted on 10/01/2002 5:32:15 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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