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To: Cronos; blam
If by Asian you mean everyone who lives in Asia, then you are completely wrong -- as Asia consists of Mongoloids (East Asia), Indo-European Caucasoids (India, Iran, Russia), Semitic Caucasoids (The Middle East bar Iran) and Negroids (the Indonesian islands)

I'm not talking "modern" Asian.. ( and I think I'm right in my distinction here.. )
If we were talking about today's asian you would be correct.

The reason I asked ( in parens ) if there was a "distinction" was due to the time frame..
The American Indian is basically the "pure" asian I am discussing in that post..
That migratory group had not yet been mixed with others, including ( and this is where my question lies ) with the mongoloid..
Where were the mongoloid prior to/during/at the end of the Ice Age?
The Eastern continent? Farther inland?
Did they have as much contact with the asians at that time?

Likewise, where were the Indo-Europeans, Melonesians, etc.. ?
I guess what I'm saying is, I was actually pointing out in that post that this was a time of "mass migrations" of basic racial groups, which forced the celts out of the area, to the west..
As those groups in the asian continent expanded, and forced out the celts, they also intermingled, and that was where the question of "distinction" between asian and mongoloid came in..

109 posted on 04/22/2005 5:25:31 AM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Drammach; Cronos; RightWhale
"Where were the mongoloid prior to/during/at the end of the Ice Age?"

I believe the oldest Mongoloid skeleton was found around the Lake Baikal area. Oppehheimer's DNA/teeth studies indicated that the North Asian descended from the South Asians and after some isolation in the north, developed the exaggerated Mongoloid features as, flat face, sindonot teeth, lighter skin, etc.
There is one skeleton found around the Lake Bakail area that is 22,000 years old (this is the disputed Mongoloid skeleton), that provokes such arguments that these guys who study such things have stopped talking about it.

Personally, I believe the Mongoloid and Caucasian 'races' were distinguished during the Last Glacial Maximum(LGM), 22-18k years ago from a common source, probably from the Jomon/Ainu types that had already been distinguished from the 'out-of-Africa' types.
The Melanisians (Negritos) were probably part of the original 'out-of-Africa' stock that mingled intermittently with some of the other groups but some remained in isolation ( and not mixing) on the misc islands in the region.
When the Ice Age ended, many millions of people had to move...and, they went in all directions. It wasn't until the final melt/surge 7-8,000 years ago that opened up the Strait Of Mallacca(sp) and allowed these immigrants to sail to India, Persian Gulf, Egypt and etc (Some to the Americas) establishing the ancient civilizations there. Some were probably 'the wise men from the east.'

They brought their myths, garden of Eden, and flood stories with them...maybe even Atlantis stories.

110 posted on 04/22/2005 6:18:54 AM PDT by blam
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To: Drammach
Likewise, where were the Indo-Europeans, Melonesians, etc.. ? I guess what I'm saying is, I was actually pointing out in that post that this was a time of "mass migrations" of basic racial groups, which forced the celts out of the area, to the west..

Arrrghh. Stop referring to the Celts as if they were somehow racially distinct from the rest of the Indo-Europeans. The Celts only really diverged from their relatives the Italics and Greeks around the start of the first millenium B.C. There were no 'Celts' in China, there were Indo-European Caucasoids
112 posted on 04/22/2005 6:52:49 AM PDT by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Drammach
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114 posted on 04/22/2005 7:08:18 AM PDT by blam
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