This conversation as usual is going nowhere fast. This is the reason for the 5s. A few of us decided we had had enough and used the 5 with fantastic result IMHO.
I don't particularly like terminating a conversation this way, but it does warn my fellow fivers not to engage due to a waste of time.
You are wasting my time now.
Oh. Please accept my most -- earnest -- apologies from distracting you from your circle jerk, Mr. Victim. It has been a .... well actually ... not.