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Posted on 09/24/2002 6:23:39 PM PDT by StopDemocratsDotCom

Ok, So what's the deal with "5", I have a general idea of what it is but i want specifics. You see it everywhere and in all forms, what the heck is "5"?, other than the number after 4, before 6. Did Freepers start this trend?


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To: nunya bidness
Maybe Luis took a while to come up with that screen name. LOL
421 posted on 09/24/2002 10:52:47 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Luis Gonzalez
The obvious thing is that the click [sic] kicked in, and got a poster banned for doing exactly what everyone else on this thread is doing.

Yeah right. That's about as accurate as your original assertion that Sir Gawain was crying abuse.

BTW, free clue: Saying something (gasp!)"insulting" does not make one a disruptor.

422 posted on 09/24/2002 10:52:50 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: rb22982
I didnt give a contrary "opinion" I asked for one [1] Libertarian who has been "elected" and done anything notable about the size of the Federal Government.

If that hasnt happened then they are dilusionary in thinking that anything else they want to do is remotely possible.

Even crackpot Liberals and Socialists can get elected. If the Libertarian party has any fallowing of substance, any amount of support then why havent they been able to get anything accomplished?

Either they after being in existence for many years now, do not have the support....which is a pretty good indicator of how competent their platform is...or they have the support but dont do anything to change the status quo. Which is it?

423 posted on 09/24/2002 10:54:29 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: Mo1
This thing went six ways from sunday!

Folks preachin...Nunya digging around in my AOL webspace like a pervert...Some Libertarian trying to prop up the party...

You name it.

424 posted on 09/24/2002 10:57:20 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: VaBthang4
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh .. business as usual I see
425 posted on 09/24/2002 11:02:11 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: VaBthang4
I didnt give a contrary "opinion" I asked for one [1] Libertarian who has been "elected" and done anything notable about the size of the Federal Government.

This is true also of Democrats and Republicans. In fact, I bet you do not even know the last year that the government size decreased (I do, and it was VERY brief).

The rest of your post can be explained simply:
1)Most people don't want to 'throw out their vote' by voting for a third party. By your logic, all third parties are dilusionary. If that is your opinion, you are entitled to it, but I think most people would disagree with you.
2) Due to #1, third parties do not have funding to promote their ideas, candidates, etc.
3) Thanks to Republicans and Dems, unless you are a 'major party' candidate it costs a lot of money to get on the ballot, and most third parties use a great majority of donations just getting the necessary signatures to get on the ballot.
4) Republicans and Democrats both take your tax dollars with matching dollars in campaign contributions from the federal government which means they get millions more to spend on advertising.
5) Publik Skools barely do a decent job of education. They teach that we live in a 2 party system. I have met many people who had never even heard of the LP before I talked to them.

426 posted on 09/24/2002 11:03:23 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: angelo
"Short of an official declaration of war by congress, what would you call it?"

WAR.

September 11, 2001 : Attack on America Congressional Record House HJRES 64- Authorizing Use of United States Armed Forces; September 14, 2001

427 posted on 09/24/2002 11:06:18 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: VaBthang4
Nunya digging around in my AOL webspace like a pervert

I sent you a private reply but you decided to take it to the forum. No matter.

When you apply the aphorism "pervert" remember it was you that supplied the images not me.

You sure do stay up late for a FAST member. O-dark-thirty must come in a different time zone than EST.

428 posted on 09/24/2002 11:09:05 PM PDT by nunya bidness
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To: VaBthang4
oops left off a big one. Many people vote AGAINST someone as opposed to FOR someone.
429 posted on 09/24/2002 11:09:37 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: VaBthang4
Some Libertarian trying to prop up the party...

Interesting way of putting it. You tried to degrade it, I asked for reasons. Hardly trying to 'prop up the party'. My favorite party (platform) is the CP. Btw I'm registered GOP.

430 posted on 09/24/2002 11:12:42 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982
I didnt ask you about Democrats or Republicans...

Ugh....deflection. Again one [1] Libertarian?

The rest is excuse making as to why the Libertarian message hasnt caught on. It hasnt caught on because nobody [relative term] agrees with it.

431 posted on 09/24/2002 11:15:57 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: VaBthang4
You said they were dilusionary because they haven't done anything with the size of the federal government, well unless you support larger government the same is true of Republicans and Democrats. Let's be consistent here. If you support larger government, I suggest you read the mission statement of this website to decide whether or not you should be on this website.

The rest is excuse making as to why the Libertarian message hasnt caught on. It hasnt caught on because nobody [relative term] agrees with it.

And they are all valid excuses. However, the main reason the LP would never become a majority party is because the majority of the population is socialistic in some way shape or form and the LP offers 0 socialism.

432 posted on 09/24/2002 11:20:04 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: nunya bidness; MP5SD; xsmommy; rintense; deport; MJY1288; Mo1; TLBSHOW; spetznaz; justshe; ...
Ugh....go away. There was nothing unseemly about the images and you know it. If there was you would've posted it, huh? What was bad was you trolling around in my stuff like a little sicko. That is where you have been for the past hour....looking around my AOL webspace like a psycho.

Dont hate because I am not some cheesball scrub perv.

Where did you see me say I am still in the Corps? Try not to assume next time. You were digging for discrepancies....nice try "L" 5.

433 posted on 09/24/2002 11:25:26 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: rb22982
Again with the deflection.

Give me one [1] Libertarian "elected" who has done one iota in turning back the Federal government.

What is the problem?

Do you not comprehend the request?

[1] One [1] One [1] One

434 posted on 09/24/2002 11:28:56 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: rb22982
"However, the main reason the LP would never become a majority party is because the majority of the population is socialistic in some way shape or form and the LP offers 0 socialism."

HEY, bud, that's enough. I am neither "socialistic in some way shape or form" (TALK ABOUT ROOM FOR INTERPRETATION WITH THAT BROAD BRUSH STATEMENT) NOR a member of the FREE PADILLA terrorism will go away when we build a 60 foot wall around the country to close the borders I don't know the origin of the National Guard the war is about oil lets legalize drugs and tax them so we can all get that tax money in SSI form so we have more time to preach our twisted version of Constitutional purity while pairing the US back to the original 13 colonies party.

Red.

435 posted on 09/24/2002 11:32:08 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: VaBthang4
Actually it wasn't a deflection, I was merely pointing out that your Repubs are just as guilty (even though they are elected and have the opportunity, yet squander it) and therefore should be considered equally 'dilisuional' by your logic.

As for the question. There is only one answer. Ron Paul. The other only notable thing I know is the LP has the Mass. Income tax repeal referendum on the ballot this year.

436 posted on 09/24/2002 11:32:37 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: Sir Gawain
OK.

I believe you.

You're da man.

You actually got pissed at a newbie that was burning you.

It was fun to watch.

Ahban, got the first "Bushbot" in, but you threw in the first bitchy, insulting, and derogatory remark in the thread.

He remarked that even your idea lacked originality, and he was as sarcastic as you had been. You responded in kind.

Then you threw a hissy fit, and called the guy a jerkoff.

Now, the newbie is banned, and you're playing the victim.

Yeah, you're da man.

Funny thing is, that you and the rest of your colleagues, are in here bitching about the government, and some FReepers, becoming oppresive, and shouting down dissenting voices.

437 posted on 09/24/2002 11:37:26 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: nunya bidness
It was an interesting study in mob mentality.

Don't you think?
438 posted on 09/24/2002 11:38:42 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: cake_crumb
I could put bits together of what you said but thats about it. I'll take a stab at it anyway. If I misjudged your comments feel free to correct

Your first statement deals with borders. However, consider the following. The LP wouldn't give any socialism out and wouldn't have an imperialism policy so there would be no reason for terrorist attacks and no reason for people from other countries to come over just looking for freebies. The rest of it sounds like you want to legalize drugs to pay for what we had back around the starting of this country. That sounds good to me. Also consider, the RP isn't doing much of detering an open border either. Consider how many illegals are here.

439 posted on 09/24/2002 11:39:17 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: rb22982
What has Ron Paul done? What anti-government legislation did he author and have passed by the Congress and Senate?

Dont give me....."ballot this year"...I didnt ask for that.

You cant even admit that the party is a joke. There is the dillusion right there.

It's like talking to a Muslim....you point out their problems and they point the finger at everyone else. I thought you said Libertarians are for personal responsibility? Then why are you pointing back at Dems & Repubs?

Tell me what Libertarians have done.....not what someone else hasnt.

440 posted on 09/24/2002 11:39:47 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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