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To: AppyPappy; Jim Robinson
No. The "FR is DU" slam is a codeword for "please ban me". Wink wink, nod nod.

Sounds like a fallacy of false distinction.

DU is noted for banning dissent. The more that happens on FR, the more similar the two sites become.

DU is full of folks who brook no criticism of their man Clinton.
FR is home to many who brook no criticism of their man Bush.

Regardless of the fact that Clinton is slime and that Bush is a good and decent man, cults of personalities ought to be avoided. The more we see it on FR, and it's here, the more FR becomes like DU. I believe that is a trend that doesn't serve this site, the conservative cause, the Republican Party, or this country well at all.

I recall reading how shaken JFK was at the German crowd's reaction to his "Ich bin ein Berliner" speech. That kind of response hadn't been seen there since the days of Hitler, and he found it disturbing to see that kind of mass psychology in response to charisma, even if the message being delivered was a good one, because the the masses can be emotional and can be swept along in the passions of the moment.

The Founding Fathers understood this, that's why America is a republic, not a simple democracy.

We are well advised to guard against this type of thing, even if we like the short term results. Nations can become charisma junkies, and the next charismatic leader might not be as much to our liking as we now find President Bush to be. The last one wasn't.

The best way to innoculate ourselves now is with a little circumspection on out own parts and tolerance for good faith differences of opinion on the parts of others.

FR is a great site, but it is harmed by excessive bannings.




413 posted on 09/25/2002 9:32:09 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
"I'm a doughnut!"
414 posted on 09/25/2002 9:38:06 AM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Sabertooth
Nations can become charisma junkies, and the next charismatic leader might not be as much to our liking as we now find President Bush to be. The last one wasn't.

Yep. Facts aren't enough to have an educated public. The Washington Post is full of facts. Critical thinking, not just PC-thought, has to be valued, even if one problem with critical thinking is that sometimes it can get more "critical" than we'd like.

415 posted on 09/25/2002 9:54:18 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: Sabertooth
Amen Toothie! And may I add ... the uneven and capricious application of the "rules" that seem to change from day to day. &;-)
416 posted on 09/25/2002 9:55:40 AM PDT by 2Trievers
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To: Sabertooth
Hooray!
418 posted on 09/25/2002 10:11:22 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Sabertooth
Good post. Even a passing similarity to DU is a problem, IMHO.
420 posted on 09/25/2002 12:46:21 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Sabertooth
FR is a great site, but it is harmed by excessive bannings.

Worth repeating.

422 posted on 09/25/2002 12:59:27 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks, Saber...
423 posted on 09/25/2002 1:04:37 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: Sabertooth; Texaggie79; Jim Robinson; Howlin; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; Iwo Jima; ...
cults of personalities ought to be avoided

I agree.

These cults of personalities who enjoy lying against the President should be avoided.

Why does this ring of Dassholes charge that Bush is politicizing the war on terrorism? I guess Tommy doesn't want to be a part of a personality cult, either.

429 posted on 09/26/2002 7:34:46 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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