The GUILD 9-23-2002 Day ONe-- Emmy Thread Held Hostage

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

In case you missed last night Emmy's thread, it was fabulous. Well the Emmy's were boring but the thread was great. Unfortunately, 2/3 of the way through, the moderators decided that the Emmy's weren't news and shoved the thread into the Cheesehole.

Since you all couldn't have possibly have heard anything about the Emmy's today in the newspaper or television, we will bring you some of the highlights.

[BigWaveBetty]

I'll bet he has Napoleon complex, or short man syndrome.

An excellent observation and I think you're right!

[Iowa Granny]

It's a little to early to know how the alleged wiretapping will effect the Ganske/Harkin race. I want to see what is found out as a result of the investigations. Once we know who the individual is who did the wiretapping, and who that individual works for,,, then we'll have a better feeling of what the impact will be.

Ganske had a bitter primary race with a young Marine, Bill Salier. The Salier supporters have been slow to come on board the Ganske campaign. None the less, Ganske's numbers were rising last week, here is an exerpt of a weekend email from the Ganske campaign:

NEW POLL SHOWS HARKIN PLUMMETING

A new poll conducted by Public Opinion Strategies shows Harkin at his lowest point yet – this despite millions of dollars spent attacking Greg Ganske on television for the past 6 months!

The new poll shows Harkin falling to 45% -- extremely problematic for an incumbent.

The poll revealed that Harkin has a scant 4 percentage point advantage over Ganske: 45% for Harkin and 41% for Ganske.

I do not know what the margin for error is on Public Opinion Stategies work. I'll go see if I can find this info in another article.

[BigWaveBetty]

Germany prefers elfland to the real world

Oh this one is good, really, really good!

[BigWaveBetty]

I want to see what is found out as a result of the investigations. Once we know who the individual is who did the wiretapping, and who that individual works for

Couldn't that take forever and past the elections? Those poll numbers are encouraging.

About Salier, what makes these guys so bitter that they're willing to help out the enemy with their slow to get on the band wagon stance? So confusing.

Don't they understand we HAVE to get the senate back and put little Tommy back in his high chair? Sheesh!

You'll have to forgive me, I'm not very savvy about these things. :-)

[Iowa Granny]

Some of the Salier supporters are upset because the RNC got involved in the Primary, paying for ads, etc. The party sent a guy out from DC to run Ganske's campaign. Stuff like that is annoying the Salier supporters.

[Utah Girl]

Wow, good find on Miss Russia being stripped of her Miss Universe crown. Pretty interesting stuff.

[BigWaveBetty]

Ahhh, life ain't fair. Thanks for helping me out to understand the workings of all these things political.

Schröder sacks two in bid to heal rift with Bush
From Roger Boyes in Berlin

ONE day after his election victory Gerhard Schröder moved to repair an increasingly fraught relationship with the United States by sacking two senior politicians who had offended President Bush.

The Bush Administration made clear, however, that Herr Schröder, who campaigned on his opposition to war in Iraq, is still out in the cold. Other world leaders telephoned the Chancellor to congratulate him, but not Mr Bush.

Donald Rumsfeld, the US Defence Secretary, said that the German election campaign had been “notably unhelpful” and he had no intention of talking to Peter Struck, the German Defence Minister, during a Nato session in Warsaw today. [snip]

You're going to have to play a prettier tune than that Mr. Schoeder!

[BigWaveBetty]

Miss Russia had me fooled. Thought she was a tough lady who could take care of herself.

Look at the bore. Don't most people that look this crazy live in rubber rooms?

Something strange is going on in these pictures, besides albore and tipster. Either bad photography or a filter so we can't see his flop sweat. Is that lipstick he's wearing in the last pic? On TV it looked like he had on blush and was trying to do the Reagan thing again. Scary!

[Utah Girl]

I don't want a man who wears makeup like the Tree does to be anywhere near the presidency. Yikes, those pictures are frightening. Ewwwww, and those who French kiss their wives in public either. Everytime I see Tipper and Al together, I think of that disgusting kiss at the DNC convention. Yuk, yuk, yuk.

[habs4ever]

Oh, no! Not Oxana! Loddy was so smitten by our babushka from the Baltic that he was ready to sign over all his worldy good to this pistol packing Olga ;-)i shudder, but is she some..hooker..in Lausanne right now?I thought she had a fuure as a Bond girl, or at least as a saudi plaything ;-)

[BigWaveBetty]

Everytime I see Tipper and Al together, I think of that disgusting kiss at the DNC convention. Yuk, yuk, yuk.

Just thinking about it sends a shiver up mine spine! When "it" happened at the convention my mouth hung open so big a trout coulda swam in there.

[BigWaveBetty]

I like President Akayev's eyebrows.

U.S. President George W. Bush gestures while meeting with Kyrgyz Republic President Askar Akayev (L) in the Oval Office at the White House in Washington, September 23, 2002. REUTERS/Hyungwon Kang

[Utah Girl]

OK, I have a candidate for the article to be posted and left on the News forum. That article about the Australian man cutting off his finger, his penis, his scrotum, and his left hand while drugged. I have seen that article posted at least once daily for the last week.

[BigWaveBetty]

I'm very sorry to greet your morning with this news but we knew most of this already and wanted to post this here for easy reference.

Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction/ The Assessment of the British Government

There will be lots of traffic there this morning. If you can't get it with the link provided try one of the links at 10 Downing Street.

[pubmom]

Tony Blair speaking about Iraq live right now on FOX.

[BigWaveBetty]

I'm there. At the same time c-span is running algore's spew from yesterday.

A great thread on this from MadIvan.

[pubmom]

Thank God that spew isn't our CIC! Our country would be nothing more than a smoking pile of rubble, and we'd all be wearing burkas right now.

On questions that concern policy, I've come to expect anything President Bush is for, Al Bore is against.

I cannot watch AlBore give a speech without needing 12 cups of coffee to keep awake, if you're watching, you're a brave, brave soul.

[Iowa Granny]

Good Morning! Still in the waking up mode,here. I will be back after the java kicks in. If I get distracted, and don't make it back, I hope everyone has a fantastic day.

[BigWaveBetty]

No didn't watch, just tuned over to see if they were showing it. Interesting they chose algore instead of Blair don't you think?

And look what I got in my email this morning. (I signed up so I could get all their propaganda)

Democrats.com Action Alert: Al Gore's Historic Anti-War Speech is CENSORED

On Monday, September 23 2002, Al Gore gave a major speech on Iraq at the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco.

Al Gore called the war on Iraq a distraction from the war on terrorism, warned against unilateral action and Bush's new Doctrine of Global Domination (a.k.a. preemptive strike policy), and addressed the timing questions of Bush's war in Iraq.

How did the networks cover Gore's historic speech?

FOX News - No Coverage

CNN - Broadcast the first few minutes - then went back to Talk Back Live.

MSNBC - Broadcast a portion of the speech - then Buchanan and Press talked over the rest of it.

These are the same networks that routinely interrupt programming with "breaking news" of press conferences concerning kidnappings, child abuse, and baseball riots. And yet a major anti-war speech by the WINNER of the 2000 election does not warrant coverage in their opinion. But these same networks carry just about every pro-war speech by Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney.

We must demand equal time from the media. We CANNOT let them conduct the hatchet job they did during campaign 2000.

We demand that Gore's speech be aired in prime time - and we demand full coverage for the anti-war movement, which represents the MAJORITY of Americans.

The media stole the Presidency from Al Gore in 2000 - it's time to get justice for Al Gore.

Act now!

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Also in the message are telephone numbers so you can call the various news outlets and voice your concerns.

These people are completely clueless. I do hope news outlets broadcast algore's speech, over and over. It isn't helping the dems running in the next election and only helps show just how blessed we are that GWB is president!

[pubmom]

Have a great morning IG!

I would like to know why they consider the anti-war movement a majority opinion of the American public. According to recent polls, didn't at least 60% of Americans (Conservative estimate) favor the use of force to oust Saddam? What math class did they attend?

I'm off in a few minutes to walk a group of kiddos to school, then I have a board meeting. I'll be back to discuss matters of international importance later this morning. :)