Elizabeth Smart Thread, 9/9/02 to ???

[stlnative]

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[Sherlock]

So on Sep 4 she admits she did call because since Jul 1 she has decided it's a better approach to paint an obscure situation of 3 white Jeeps.

Let me ask you this, since you seem to see blur in a situation that is straight forward to myself and police. If she called the day the Jeep was taken in to check on the progress, as she admits, on the electronic fuel pump, if she was not involved in getting it out of the shop as soon as the electronic fuel pump part of the repairs was completed, as Moul alleges, WHY DID SHE NEVER AGAIN IN TWO WEEKS CALL TO CHECK ON IT??

[landerwy]

Very good question! I keep remembering Dinse's words about a month ago when he said they were looking at other people and other situations but that every thing kept retuning to Ricci.

[Sherlock]

Angela Ricci on LKL on July 1, 2002:

KING: Now, the mechanic on the car claimed somebody identifying herself as you called to say her husband would be picking up the Jeep.

Was that you?

RICCI: No, it wasn't.

And just real quickly...

KING: What do you make of it?

RICCI: Well, any time that I've ever called -- either Richard or I have ever called the shop regarding mechanical work on that vehicle, we are not that formal with the mechanic to call and say, this is Mr. or Mrs. Ricci.

If I were to call that place, he would only know me, myself, as white Jeep, electronic fuel pump. You know, I've experienced this when I've called there before. (Comment - by this statement, when I've called before, she is saying she called in the past, but not on the date in question, May 30. In her next interview you will see she admits she did call on May 30.)

So, you know, it wasn't me, and I don't have a clue as to where that came from.

This is what her story evolved into by her next interview on September 4, 2002:

RICCI: I don't know. I don't even think the Jeep has anything to do with the disappearance, to be honest with you. I just think if it was Rick's Jeep that was gone, it was just weird timing. Now, I did call the mechanic at one time, and this is important to me. I called him one time to talk to him about the mechanical problem. The mechanic went into a different mechanical problem. I said, no, the electronic fuel pump. and he conveyed to me, oh, I have two, three white Jeeps here now.

KING: There were other white Jeeps.

RICCI: Yes. He said, I have two, three white Jeeps here now.

KING: White Jeeps are fairly common, right? in Utah especially.

POMEROY: They are, especially in Utah.

RICCI: And I told the police that as well.

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So on Sep 4 she admits she did call on May 30, after denying it by context on Jul 1, because since Jul 1 she has decided it's a better approach to paint the obscure situation of 3 white Jeeps.

Let me ask you this, since you seem to see blur in a situation that is straight forward to myself and police. If she called the day the Jeep was taken in to check on the progress, as she admits, on the electronic fuel pump, if she was not involved in getting it out of the shop as soon as the electronic fuel pump part of the repairs was completed, as Moul alleges, WHY DID SHE NEVER AGAIN IN TWO WEEKS CALL TO CHECK ON IT??

[scaredkat]

2 different versions that day.

This is a cover up (just like our gov. on PA)Tell them what they need to hear not what really happened.

This is what I think :
Angela called the place under riccis instructions, "Call them and tell them I picking it up" (repair shops here do take forever. I had to do the same with mine one time. It was a day job it took two then three then the weekend. so I called and said I am picking it up rather its done or not. I have plans and need the car. I will bring it back afterwords but we have plans and Im not changing them just because you cant do your job) --this seems legitiment, were angla is involved. Her only lie is saying she didnt call. Wifes do know things about their husbands rather they cover up or they just dont want to admitt it. She lives in the fairy world.
Ricci does pick up his car. He has keys doesnt need to talk to moul his wife already did. The phone call was to insure that it wouldnt be reported stolen.
Ricci does return the jeep. moul says he didnt talk to him, pleeessseee! Sounds like moul is lonely. Do chit chat all the time with the repair guy. He doesnt need to moul knows what needs done on the jeep. moul has keys. Why say anything to him. Put it in reality-- Ricci returns jeep gets his stuff out of the jeep looks at person in blue suv, thinks yeah my ride is here. grabs his stuff and goes. on a normal day we would be like this to dropping something off not letting who gives a ride to wait to long for you.
The miles on the jeep. Moul is totaly guessing on this so its not fact wont hold up in court. I wouldnt buy it as a jurior especially in utah. the way this valley is your always in your car and going somewhere. I go shopping at a store that is on the otherside of the valley at least twice a week. the milage thing is easy here. I bet if they did a survey they would find that utah has the highest milage on cars.

The catch on this story is this:
Why did ricci need the jeep when he has other cars? (3 other ones)
Who is in the blue suv?
This is suspicious because he has never came forward and no one (friends, family, neighbors) has seen it around before or after.

Blue SUV- What kind of suv are they actually talking about? Thats what I need to know.
I have a picture of one but Im not sharing until they state more info. I dont want to point a finger in the wrong direction.

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[scaredkat]

Okay Im back--Blue suv, I have a picture but dont want to point any fingers. My meaning on this is there are so many blue suvs around here people could have a field day pointing fingers at each other saying you did it.
my question is,
What is a blue suv??

[landerwy]

I thought Ed Smart said blue van, but I could be wrong. Second what is "gov. on PA"? And third, Utah, Nevada, Wyoming, Colorado, Idaho, and some other states do have high mileage. I did over 4,000 in the last 3 weeks!

[scaredkat]

And third, Utah, Nevada, Wyoming, Colorado, Idaho, and some other states do have high mileage. I did over 4,000 in the last 3 weeks! thanks thats what I thought about drivers.

Second what is "gov. on PA"? If anyone believes the story about the plane going down without being shot down on 9-11 they need to rethink that one. (That plane was shot down. My husband was in the air force and said to me. If it was a plane crash there would be signs. I if it was shot down you wouldnt have much left of it and it also would explain some of the pictures he saw. He said hes seen something like that before, he wouldnt say what, because of military convidentiality.) Ill I ment was there is coverups in allot of things that the big guys dont want us to know.

[Sherlock]

If anyone believes the story about the plane going down without being shot down on 9-11 they need to rethink that one.

How do you explain the families listening to the cockpit recorder.

[landerwy]

I have questions about the plane that went down in queens on Nov 12th, 2001. Interesting about your thoughts on the PA site. Thanks

[scaredkat]

I have questions about the plane that went down in queens on Nov 12th, 2001. Interesting about your thoughts on the PA site. Thanks

horror is all I think of. Do you remember the specially they had on the fireman and someone says right to the terriost "I live in queens and you can bring your sorry ass over here" the guy was really mad and wanted to kick some butt, well what happens a plane falls down in his neighborhood. Is this coinsidents? I think not.

[scaredkat]

I have questions about the plane that went down in queens on Nov 12th, 2001. Interesting about your thoughts on the PA site. Thanks

horror is all I think of. Do you remember the specially they had on the fireman and someone says right to the terriost "I live in queens and you can bring your sorry ass over here" the guy was really mad and wanted to kick some butt, well what happens a plane falls down in his neighborhood. Is this coinsidents? I think not.

[scaredkat]

dang I hate it when it posts twice.

[scaredkat]

the cockpit recorder is fact that what was going on in there but what was going on outside of the plane. topsecret.

[scaredkat]

Is there a forem on this subject. Id love to get involved, I have been keeping a calender on events that have been happening since then. They are all things that hit the news one time and then was pulled. I watch CNN and Foxnews mostly. I have our locale news and east and west coast as well. Youd be surprised the different stories you get.

[Devil_Anse]

In keeping with my current preoccupation with the role of drugs in Ricci's life, I remember I read a news story somewhere during the last year. Will try to find it, but can't currently recall names of perps/victims, etc.

Two men had a scam going. They were helping out homeless addicts. They would befriend addicts, and provide them with shelter, food, bits of money, etc. They would also periodically provide the addicts with drugs. They would take out life insurance on each addict. They would keep the addict around for a while, then eventually the addict would overdose on drugs.

No one would think much of it, except to be sad about it, b/c what does one expect to happen to an unreformed addict? The scam artists would then collect on the life insurance for each deceased addict.

Edmunds. Near-overdose. Homeless. Reputed addict.

Also, was Edmunds a "mule" on his trip across the country?

And to tie it in with Ricci and my today's theory about Ricci using the jeep as collateral to borrow money for drugs, I went to Brigette's archive. Police caught up with Edmunds on the 20th of June. They questioned him within the next few days, had questioned him by June 25th. It wasn't until June 25th that we first heard that the police had become curious about Ricci's jeep. Did Edmunds give the police info on someone who may have provided drugs to Ricci?

[varina davis]

To: Devil_Anse Now that is speculation!!! Have you ever thought about fictional writing?

I'll second that!

[varina davis]

Why does the jeep really stay in the shop so much?

I believe there were two other vehicles in the family. Maybe having the jeep 24/7 wasn't that crucial.

[Devil_Anse]

For crying out loud, varina. My recent "speculation," if considered as a possibility, would tend to clear Richard Ricci in the abduction.

There's just no pleasing you!

[Devil_Anse]

"Maybe having the jeep 24/7 wasn't that crucial."

Of course it wasn't. That's why he could use it to borrow money on. Perhaps money for drugs.

[varina davis]

dang I hate it when it posts twice.

Scaredkat, where are you from originally? Just wondered, because I like the way you talk.