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Elizabeth Smart thread, September 5, 2002-?

Posted on 09/04/2002 8:39:12 PM PDT by IamHD

ES missing since 6-5-2002 and will have been missing for 3 months in a few hours, so I thought that this would be an approriate time to start a new thread.


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To: Jolly Green
Huh??? He didn't find an article where Moul said Ricci carried or wore a machete.

He found one (didn't provide any links) that Morse, Ricci's father-in-law, said the police said so, but Moul said no comment, even after the police supposedly said Ricci wore the machete.

361 posted on 09/06/2002 6:29:06 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: Devil_Anse
We should at least give the guy the presumption of innocence till his trial or plea, though, shouldn't we?

Ahhhhh, like Ricci?

362 posted on 09/06/2002 6:29:39 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: varina davis
I am sure Rick Dinse and crew had quite a few questions for the ex-Bishop. Of course, there's always that convenient excuse used by so many in this case: "I was home in bed with my wife". What docile obedient Mormon wife would dare to contradict such an alibi?

I wonder if Spencer Dixon ever invited the harp chorus to perform at his ward house? Was he present at the funeral of Grandfather Francom? Was he at the Smart/Francom homes afterwards? For that matter, was he ever in the Smart house on any occasion?

A trusted member of the community, voice recognized by Mary Katherine, NO mustache. And he can't keep his hands off of young teenage girls.

I'd say Dinse has a live one!
363 posted on 09/06/2002 6:29:43 PM PDT by Palladin
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To: varina davis
How about this defrocked Bishop who lives just over 5 miles from the Smart home?

If you looked within a 5 mile radius around anybody's home in any city in America you would probably find many child molesters, some of them registered as such. Is it the title of Bishop that intrigues you varina? If you would like to explore this then just find some reason for us to spend our time on it. Where is the connection?

364 posted on 09/06/2002 6:30:57 PM PDT by sandude
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To: Palladin
...and owns a British-style golf cap?

Palladin, you miss even the most basic facts in the case! The kidnapper wore a WHITE BASEBALL HAT!!

365 posted on 09/06/2002 6:31:08 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: Jolly Green
For you newbies, the lengthy quote included "trusted person in the neighborhood" - a depiction that could include Ricci.

The quote: "We believe that this person may be a trusted person in the neighborhood or in the community. [It] might be someone ... that had reason to be here, that had reason to come across the family, all those kind of things we still believe," Atkinson said.

366 posted on 09/06/2002 6:32:55 PM PDT by jo6pac
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To: Palladin
I wonder if Spencer Dixon ever invited the harp chorus to perform at his ward house? Was he present at the funeral of Grandfather Francom? Was he at the Smart/Francom homes afterwards? For that matter, was he ever in the Smart house on any occasion?

A trusted member of the community, voice recognized by Mary Katherine, NO mustache. And he can't keep his hands off of young teenage girls.

I'd say Dinse has a live one!

So do I, Palladin. Especially so, since the Ricci haters haven't bothered to comment on it. That makes him a live one if nothing else.

After seeing that photo of Dixon, LE must be swarming all over him -- if they're doing their job.

367 posted on 09/06/2002 6:33:47 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: Devil_Anse
If there was molestation of Elizabeth, perhaps it was done by Richard Ricci.

There was a news report about a month ago which claimed that Ricci had parted ways with his ex-girlfriend after Ricci developed an interest in the girlfriend's 16-year old daughter. Ricci was a real prince.

368 posted on 09/06/2002 6:34:52 PM PDT by Jolly Green
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To: Jolly Green
Article 1:
2nd Article:
Article 3:
Article 4:

I was the one that provided Article 2 yesterday. I even put a link to it.

It was an unnamed source that said Ricci wore the machete.

I asked for an article where Moul said Ricci carried or wore the machete.

The point was the original interview of Moul did not include the machete. This was added later when the police searched Morse's shed and found the machete.
369 posted on 09/06/2002 6:35:37 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: sandude
Is it the title of Bishop that intrigues you varina?

NO! Mr. Smug, it because he's a molester of young girls in the proximity of his and the Smart's neighborhood -- something you apparently don't wish to concede.

370 posted on 09/06/2002 6:35:52 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: varina davis
There ARE other avenues to investigate and I hope LE is doing that at the least.

I agree with you here varina. I do hope that LE has turned over every stone in this investigation. From what we can see they are narrowing in on the culprits and I hope we will know the truth of these things soon. Having said that, are you prepared if the findings show that Richard, Angela, and other’s close to them committed this crime?

371 posted on 09/06/2002 6:36:23 PM PDT by sandude
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To: Sherlock
The kidnapper wore a WHITE BASEBALL HAT!!

You don't have a clue what he wore. There is no evidence.

372 posted on 09/06/2002 6:37:00 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: sandude
Having said that, are you prepared if the findings show that Richard, Angela, and other’s close to them committed this crime?

Are you prepared if they didn't?

373 posted on 09/06/2002 6:39:31 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: sandude
My point is that the Smarts probably never turned the alarm on at night. Assuming that the perp had a key then maybe the perp checked it on several different nights and found this to be true and was sure there was no dog.

The perp may have been testing it when the milkman saw him on the Smart's cul de sac on Jun 3. Maybe the perp feared he had seen him, that would explain why he followed the milkman for a few blocks and acted so aggressively.

Spencer Dixon doesn't look thin, athletic, or dark, and probably doesn't have a WHITE BASEBALL HAT, a blue SUV, or a red, white & blue tatoo.

374 posted on 09/06/2002 6:39:54 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: Devil_Anse
All I'm asking is that you draw the connection for us, between this article you posted, and the disappearance of Elizabeth Smart. Is that too much to ask, on a thread devoted to the disappearance of Elizabeth Smart?

As you are already aware, those in the Logic-Free Zone never even try to defend their posts. They can't. They are hit-and-run artists. Smear someone and move on to another topic.

375 posted on 09/06/2002 6:42:00 PM PDT by Jolly Green
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To: Jolly Green
which claimed

Can you say unproven? furthermore, the comment referred to an ex-girlfriend of years ago and never implied there was any type of assault or charges.

376 posted on 09/06/2002 6:42:43 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: sandude
From what we can see they are narrowing in on the culprits...

I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. (What can we see?)

377 posted on 09/06/2002 6:43:57 PM PDT by jo6pac
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To: varina davis
Spencer Dixon
378 posted on 09/06/2002 6:44:34 PM PDT by Palladin
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To: Sherlock
Dixon not dark? Put your eyeglasses on.
380 posted on 09/06/2002 6:46:09 PM PDT by Palladin
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