Elizabeth Smart thread, September 5, 2002-?

[IamHD]

ES missing since 6-5-2002 and will have been missing for 3 months in a few hours, so I thought that this would be an approriate time to start a new thread.

[scaredkat]

sorry selves.

[Utah Girl]

The YW camp I attended and then later was an assistant camp director is located near Fairview, UT. It is pretty remote. I know the stakes that don't have permanent campsites do have to scrounge every year for somewhere to go. My sister was the stake YW president for several years, one year they went to a public campground (reserved the whole thing.) And they mounted a patrol around the perimeter, because there was a public road. My sister said it was a pretty interesting camp that year. Any time you get a whole bunch of girls (300) together in a public camping ground, the boys will be there. It's like a magnet. They sent home a couple of girls whose boyfriends managed to get into the tents, and then the problems calmed down after that.

And I'm not saying there aren't problems, because there are. But, yes, I pretty well knew where the 4th and 5th girls were. We have schedules posted, if there was a stake activity and the fourth year girls went, and came back, I'd be asking if I didn't see a certain girl come back with the group. I do know that some of the girls would duck out of the activities too, but for a group of girls to be gone all day long, sorry, that leader was abrogating her responsibility.

[scaredkat]

for being UNEDUCATED--sorry! sorry!-- I am educated! Im a data processer and I go for speed not punctuation, spelling (at times) keyers are trained to watch keystrokes and to take out punctuations. Soooo! It seems, I just keep going on my talking Ill try to do better so you can understand me better. I do type 70 words aminute with no errors but thats when Im reading and typing(ya know what I mean?) OH MY HECK! I really am from Utah and My heck is stated in my language as well, IM telling the truth. give me a polygraph I know I would pass with flying colors. (unlike others) If your from "utah" or at least murray you would understand this saying (doing it just for fun) "I DUN DID GRADIATED FROM MUR-RAY HIGH SCOOOL." Sorry but my husband and I are having fun with this right now (he was from the "wads", not murray and I said it to him when we first met and he has sinse learned that utahns say this. Its good to laugh every once in awhile. maybe we need to go for a while so when I get back to you guys I will be serious again.

[Devil_Anse]

Thanks very much for the answers. Someone here suggested you take this info to the Smarts, since you've said the police don't seem interested. You could also maybe find out the owner of the mine and notify them--perhaps even anonymously.

I'm still confused as to where the famous Smart cabin is. Someone here posted part of an article in which it says that the cabin is in Brighton. You say the SLCPD were the responding agency for your calls about what you found in Brighton. So, does that mean Brighton is part of greater SLC? Or did you mean, the county sheriff was the agency?

I had at one time heard the Smart cabin was along the Wyoming border. Maybe there are two cabins. We know that when the family was moving out of their Kristianna Circle home, they weren't going too far, since the schools would be the same or almost the same. I have trouble picturing this place Brighton; it's hard to imagine some rustic country place that is so close to metro SLC.

How did your sister know that Miller and the guy Miller sold the house to both knew Ricci?

[Devil_Anse]

Ooops, sorry. You clearly said Salt Lake Sheriff. Sorry to be slow!

[Sherlock]

Because "us" guys are interested in truth and logic and fair play, spore.

ROTFLMBO!!!!!

[Devil_Anse]

Hey, I believe you, although I slapped my forehead when I saw a comment posted by Brigette that said pointedly that you experienced "visions." But you explained that, and I was glad to hear you were not claiming to be a psychic.

In our state, a person can go to the clerk's office counter of the state criminal court, and plug in a name, and find cases against that person, as well as whether the cases resulted in conviction or not. If you ever become less scared, perhaps you could do that.

[varina davis]

ROTFLMBO!!!!!

Glad to see you having so much fun!

[Yellowcat]

Yes but did you watch your four year girls as closely No I think not remember there the leaders. go on hikes by themselfs go around checking on all your camp girls did you know where they were at all times, bet not.

Hummmmmmmm! Four-year girls you say. That's a little bit older than 14 yr old Elizabeth isn't it?

P.S. How old were you when you dropped out of school?

[Devil_Anse]

What I meant about criminal court records was, perhaps you could look up some of the players in this mystery, in your local criminal courts, since you are in Utah.

[FR_addict]

Interesting.

[varina davis]

Where is 1300 South and 2400 East, I wonder.

[FR_addict]

So where's one article that says Moul said that Ricci had a machete? I believed he said it until yesterday because of the posts on these threads, but I can't find one article that says he did.

The rest of your post is just spewing your usual garbage.

[FR_addict]

Very good find. I'm really tired of this sanctimonious group, esp. Sherlock and JG.

[Utah Girl]

I was just waiting for someone to post the article. At least the LDS church and the hierarchy take this kind of sexual abuse seriously and relieved the bishop of his ecclesiastical duties immediately (under two weeks). It makes my skin crawl that he abused that poor girl, and in the library to boot. My prayers are with this girl and her family.

[Utah Girl]

That particular wardhouse is on the east bench of SLC. I know which one it is, a very nice area of SLC, older area.

[GovernmentShrinker]

Perhaps you should read some of the recent letters to the editor of the BYU Universe (available online), complaining about all the stuff the EFY kids do there. It doesn't sound as if they're being very closely supervised. And given the censorship policies at BYU, I expect that what made it into the paper was the milder stuff.