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Elizabeth Smart thread, September 5, 2002-?

Posted on 09/04/2002 8:39:12 PM PDT by IamHD

ES missing since 6-5-2002 and will have been missing for 3 months in a few hours, so I thought that this would be an approriate time to start a new thread.


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To: scaredkat
Also point to ponder this is called a kidnapping why? kidnapping deals with a ransome, abduction which all other missing children are listed under is when someunknown takes a child. Is there some kind of ransome going on we dont know about?

Since you are a newcomer, I'll be gentle.

I'm sure that the abductor, in his wildest dreams, never concieved that the Smart case would recieve the worldwide publicity that it did - within 4 or 5 hours of the abduction - because of the Amber/Rachel alert. The FBI was involved immediately. The massive publicity changed the dynamics. There was no possible way for a kidnapper to contact the Smarts about a ransom without leaving a trace. The simple abduction, ransom and fast money turned into a very high risk proposition. I believe that the perp(s) decided to cut their losses, which more than likely means that ES was killed and buried.

As for your theories, please provide even a single fact which supports your claim.

121 posted on 09/05/2002 8:14:47 PM PDT by Jolly Green
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To: Sherlock
If that were their intention the case would have been over a long time ago.

That's the point, dumb-dumb. They couldn't because there was no evidence.

122 posted on 09/05/2002 8:17:37 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: Sherlock
I found it very interesting that the SLCPD said their view was it was a burglary Liz caught them in. That makes no sense to me or to Ed Smart I might add. What is up with the SL Police?

That story in the Tribune was a carefully crafted leak that IMHO was cleared from the top. Perhaps they want the accomplice to think that. I hope so anyway because this was certainly no burglary.

123 posted on 09/05/2002 8:18:38 PM PDT by sandude
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To: IamHD
Very nice animation.

Perhaps I am a disruptor in your eyes, but I have been following this case since Day 1, and have seen about as many media reports on it as other followers of it have. Perhaps more media reports than you, personally, because your posts seem to seldom ponder the facts of the case. Your comments seem rather emotion-driven, such as the teary-eyed short eulogy you wrote for Ricci at the top of one thread you started.

I am still waiting for the answer to this mystery, and am not yet willing to rule out anyone who knew Elizabeth, nor am I ruling out that this was perhaps the work of someone whose name none of us have heard yet.
124 posted on 09/05/2002 8:20:26 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Jolly Green
Maybe, maybe not, but it won't be because you say so. :)
125 posted on 09/05/2002 8:20:48 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: scaredkat
That post is so bizarre it almost has a grain of credibility. You sound as though you are very close to someone who knows a lot.
126 posted on 09/05/2002 8:21:35 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: Devil_Anse
I am still waiting for the answer to this mystery, and am not yet willing to rule out anyone who knew Elizabeth, nor am I ruling out that this was perhaps the work of someone whose name none of us have heard yet.

Have you ruled out anyone in the immediate or extended family?

127 posted on 09/05/2002 8:23:36 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: Devil_Anse
Hello, NEWBIE! For someone who just signed up today at FR, you seem to think you know me very well.

Come on out from behind that false face, coward!
128 posted on 09/05/2002 8:25:06 PM PDT by Palladin
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To: IamHD
Maybe, maybe not, but it won't be because you say so. :)

You said so, you twit!

129 posted on 09/05/2002 8:26:19 PM PDT by Jolly Green
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To: IamHD
Ed, Tom, and Dave are sending in reinforcements. They must be damn SCARED after Angela's interview on LKL.
130 posted on 09/05/2002 8:26:28 PM PDT by Palladin
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To: Devil_Anse
"Your comments seem rather emotion-driven, such as the teary-eyed short eulogy you wrote for Ricci at the top of one thread you started."

LOL! "emotion-driven" "Teary-eyed eulogy?"

What can I say, I'm a passionate person. :)

131 posted on 09/05/2002 8:28:28 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: Palladin
Ya, right!
132 posted on 09/05/2002 8:29:04 PM PDT by Jolly Green
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To: Sherlock
"All I saw was a guilt-ridden woman cowering....She seems to have quite a cult following here on FR."

Here's the bad news: she has a "cult following" on some other forums, too, after last night's interview.

You seem to get it about Angela. As for her "cult followers," why must the public view of Angela rocket between dreg-of-society, and angelic saint? There is an in-between. After watching last night's interview, I find it painfully clear that this woman is not exactly bright. Either she never was, or she has damaged her brain from too much prescription (and maybe non-prescription) medication. I don't think she was involved, and she certainly wasn't the mastermind of some big plot, as people have speculated from time to time. In fact, I almost think Ricci could have brought Elizabeth right into their mobile home, and would have gotten no reaction from Angela other than "hi, honey, did you have a nice day at the nursery?"
133 posted on 09/05/2002 8:30:21 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Jolly Green
Are you trying to make me say something that I don't want to, idiot?? I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you, got it?
134 posted on 09/05/2002 8:31:16 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: IamHD
"I'm a passionate person."

From your lips to Uncle Tom's ears.
135 posted on 09/05/2002 8:31:22 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
You got it!
136 posted on 09/05/2002 8:33:00 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: All
Night, all.
137 posted on 09/05/2002 8:35:47 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: Jolly Green
no real hard proof just like the police said but I know where they took her and the are three players involved in this. Ricci took her and passed her off to the "important person" which really believe he took her to that mountain I talk about before (THE MOUNTAIN THING I STATE IS REALLY TRUE THE POLICE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION ON THAT AND SOME EFFIDANCE ON THAT-REMEMBER IT WAS BY THE SMART CABIN-WE JUST NEED MORE PROOF A BODY) I also dont believe it was ricci at all check these pictures out are they alike or what? http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/2002-06-28/usw_missinggirl.asp
138 posted on 09/05/2002 8:36:15 PM PDT by scaredkat
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To: varina davis
ie working on the case with police officers sinse june 9 but everything is at a dead end need a break somewhere maybe here.
139 posted on 09/05/2002 8:37:50 PM PDT by scaredkat
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To: trussell
place marker
140 posted on 09/05/2002 8:43:14 PM PDT by trussell
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