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I Am Reinstating My Previously Witheld Monthly Payment To FR
vanity | 08-26-02 | mercy

Posted on 08/26/2002 9:57:23 AM PDT by mercy

Giving priority to what is most important, I have decided to swallow my pride. I had a dustup with a moderator. I lost. Though I think the moderators need a tuneup they ain't so bad really. I depend on them to keep this site from becomming a free for all whacko hate site. I used to push the abuse button quite frequently on my fave undesirables ... anti-semite, haters. I notice they're a bit thin around here lately.

It is most important that Free Republic live and thrive. It is less important that I get things my way around here. Though I do not agree completely with the proposition that it is Jim's site and he can do with it what he damn will pleases ... It's as much our site, collectively, as it is his now. Perhaps Jim does ride herd a bit too hard on this creation he gave birth to. Fact is I don't know. I simply don't have enough information.

But it is a given that FR is the best there is at what it does. If it's only my morning paper and a place to exercise my verbal skills ... it's worth supporting. Now is the time for all level headed thinking FReepers to come to the aid of our wounded friend ... Free Republic.


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To: Roscoe
Rave on. I made no such comparison, roscoe.

-- You did.
961 posted on 08/27/2002 7:31:53 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Cyrano
,,, thanx for that input. The assumptions of M Thatcher point to him/her being a journalist, rather than a writer. Genuine writers tend to engage more thought than reflex and back it with measured credibility drawn from astute perceptions.
962 posted on 08/27/2002 7:37:11 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: Jolly Rodgers
Talk about low self-esteem. You think the GOP needs both houses and the presidency in order to make strides? Hell, the democrats have been making strides year after year, whether they owned a majority or not. They could only do that because the GOP and the DNC march in lockstep on principle. It is only in means and speed of implementation where they differ.

The first principle of any party apparatus is to perpetuate itself. It is up to the electorate to move a party in a particular direction and it is up to the individual to organize and to sway the party and the electorate.

It makes no sense for a freedom thinker to leave a party -- the R party -- where most Freedom thinking people are concentrated. That would only cause a dilution of the Freedom thinkers as they tranverse party lines.

The problem is not the party -- the problem is the electorate and the solution lies with the indiviudal to change the R party and the electorate using the powers of the already entrenched Freedom thinking people in the R party.

963 posted on 08/27/2002 7:38:35 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Terriergal
Nope, can't see it my friend.
Daddy always said never converse with someone who's a legend in their own mind.(If ya get my drift)
Otherwise, you're one of my favorite twits.
A twit, is much better than being a rude pinhead.

xoxoxo to you TG,

SOR
964 posted on 08/27/2002 7:46:20 PM PDT by Son of Rooster
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To: Cultural Jihad; tpaine
tpaine, CJ may throw his barbs along with the rest, but at least he'll cede a point once in a while. Yes, I flagged you to say that perhaps you could learn a little humility. Of all the things I could have said, that is far from the worst.

All: Suffice it to say that if you are learning about "libertarians" from tpaine, you're getting the wrong impression.

965 posted on 08/27/2002 7:46:45 PM PDT by Liberal Classic
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To: Jolly Rodgers
BALDERDASH AND CODSWALLOP !

For how amny years did the Dems run both or at least the Senate and the White House, in the last 60 + years ? Don't attempt refutation, with solophistic, spurious demogogeray. I may have been born at night; but, it certainly wasn't last night. Pull that garbage on those whp don't know much; that won't wash with me. :-)

966 posted on 08/27/2002 7:46:50 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: TLBSHOW
Add "Sophmoric" to your personality traits.
967 posted on 08/27/2002 7:49:20 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: RightWhale
he gave us "the tree," & we "made it into" our 21st century "liberty tree!" doc
968 posted on 08/27/2002 7:55:19 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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To: shaggy eel; Cyrano; Terriergal; M. Thatcher
Yeah, thanks for that input. I'm not a writer so I'd just usually call someone with an attitude and rudeness like that an arrogant prick.

SOR
969 posted on 08/27/2002 7:56:27 PM PDT by Son of Rooster
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To: usconservative
You do not want to defeat the enemey?

You are exactly right, Larry, we have nothing to discuss.

970 posted on 08/27/2002 7:58:01 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: Son of Rooster
I'd just usually call someone with an attitude and rudeness like that an arrogant prick.

,,, or to be less succinct, "a writer beyond our financial means".

971 posted on 08/27/2002 8:01:37 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: FreeReign
The first principle of any party apparatus is to perpetuate itself. It is up to the electorate to move a party in a particular direction and it is up to the individual to organize and to sway the party and the electorate.

If that is the first principle of the party apparatus, then the party apparatus should never be supported. A properly functioning party would be a means of consolidating people of homogeneous principles and pooling resources so that they can be more effective at electing people who will uphold the stated principles during the governing process. It is my responsibility as an individual to seek out the party that advocates the principles I hold dear. And, if none can be found, then I should refrain from supporting any of them. Perhaps working to build a new party if there is sufficient consensus among others in the population.

It makes no sense for a freedom thinker to leave a party -- the R party -- where most Freedom thinking people are concentrated. That would only cause a dilution of the Freedom thinkers as they tranverse party lines.

It makes no sense for a freedom lover to continue supporting the Republican party, which is anethema to the principles of liberty. The last 12 months of Republican national leadership make it extremely clear that they are entirely hostile to the principles of liberty and individual rights. They don't even stand in support of such traditional issues as pro-life, limited government or state sovereignty.

The problem is not the party -- the problem is the electorate and the solution lies with the indiviudal to change the R party and the electorate using the powers of the already entrenched Freedom thinking people in the R party.

Bush made it clear during the election that he didn't need, nor want, the support or advice of conservatives. He's got his own agenda and it is in direct contradiction to the the values I hold dear. That is why I will not support him.

972 posted on 08/27/2002 8:03:44 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: nopardons
BALDERDASH AND CODSWALLOP !

Yes, that seems to be what you are serving.

For how amny years did the Dems run both or at least the Senate and the White House, in the last 60 + years ? Don't attempt refutation, with solophistic, spurious demogogeray. I may have been born at night; but, it certainly wasn't last night. Pull that garbage on those whp don't know much; that won't wash with me. :-)

You've always got some excuse why the Republicans need to cave in -- just one more time. I've heard it from you and your kind a thousand times. Then, when called on it, you get all defensive and start yelling and calling names. Boo-hoo-hoo. The fact is that the R's are not capitulating to the D's. They are getting exactly what they want -- which just happens to be the SAME THING as the D's. Power. More power. Federal power. Taxes. More taxes. Total control. A police state.

973 posted on 08/27/2002 8:07:28 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: Rebelbase
Like I said I could care what you think.
974 posted on 08/27/2002 8:07:50 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: Liberal Classic; Cultural Jihad; Roscoe; Kevin Curry
All: Suffice it to say that if you are learning about "libertarians" from tpaine, you're getting the wrong impression. - LC
_________________________________

I freely admit that when libertarian thought conflicts with our constitutions principles, -
-- the Constitution wins with me.

Can you boyos say the same when it comes to fundamentalist views?

-- Lets hear those sputters.
975 posted on 08/27/2002 8:11:56 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Jolly Rodgers
Your hallucinations seem to geetting worse, dear. I called no names, I gave no excuses, you've put words in my mouth, impugned me, and obviously you don't understand English. No wonder you have nothing of value, to add to a political debate, but trite code phrases, from the fringe. LOL

I think your tinfoil needs changing, BTW.

976 posted on 08/27/2002 8:12:00 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: shaggy eel; Terriergal
Nice to know us little pepole are blessed here at FR with a famous author (I wonder if it is Clancy?).
I'll just remain a poor working stiff that can be bought and sold by those beyond our financal means.

SOR
977 posted on 08/27/2002 8:12:36 PM PDT by Son of Rooster
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To: Son of Rooster
a famous author

,,, setting up crossword puzzles for inclusion in the New York Times won't necessarily make somebody famous. I know I'm jumping to conclusions in saying this, but over the last half hour or so I've decided to become a writer too.

978 posted on 08/27/2002 8:16:58 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: nopardons
Your hallucinations seem to geetting worse, dear. I called no names, I gave no excuses, you've put words in my mouth, impugned me, and obviously you don't understand English. No wonder you have nothing of value, to add to a political debate, but trite code phrases, from the fringe. LOL I think your tinfoil needs changing, BTW.

See what I mean? You instantly resort to personal attacks when you know your position is bankrupt. Tsk-tsk. You're rather less than competent as a party apologist. One would think with all the practice you've been getting, you could at least do a bit better job.

979 posted on 08/27/2002 8:18:11 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: Son of Rooster
LOL!
980 posted on 08/27/2002 8:19:25 PM PDT by Terriergal
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