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I Am Reinstating My Previously Witheld Monthly Payment To FR
vanity | 08-26-02 | mercy

Posted on 08/26/2002 9:57:23 AM PDT by mercy

Giving priority to what is most important, I have decided to swallow my pride. I had a dustup with a moderator. I lost. Though I think the moderators need a tuneup they ain't so bad really. I depend on them to keep this site from becomming a free for all whacko hate site. I used to push the abuse button quite frequently on my fave undesirables ... anti-semite, haters. I notice they're a bit thin around here lately.

It is most important that Free Republic live and thrive. It is less important that I get things my way around here. Though I do not agree completely with the proposition that it is Jim's site and he can do with it what he damn will pleases ... It's as much our site, collectively, as it is his now. Perhaps Jim does ride herd a bit too hard on this creation he gave birth to. Fact is I don't know. I simply don't have enough information.

But it is a given that FR is the best there is at what it does. If it's only my morning paper and a place to exercise my verbal skills ... it's worth supporting. Now is the time for all level headed thinking FReepers to come to the aid of our wounded friend ... Free Republic.


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To: Dec31,1999
No, they don't. I think you forgot the word "would".

Okay, in the context of elected national office, the word "would" is more correct. However, libertarianism is not just a political trickery used to get elected. It is also a lifestyle that is lived by individual people.

1,061 posted on 08/27/2002 10:09:59 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: tpaine
It's classic to resort to name-calling when one's arguements fail. I see it all the time.
1,062 posted on 08/27/2002 10:13:20 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: Jolly Rodgers
It is also a lifestyle that is lived by individual people.

Speaking of indymedia, one supposes that communists say the same thing about their own moral-liberal ideology, too. "It's more than a philosophy. It's a way of life!"

1,063 posted on 08/27/2002 10:14:00 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Jolly Rodgers
I am a libertarian, so why are you picking on people?
1,064 posted on 08/27/2002 10:16:34 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: Cultural Jihad
Speaking of indymedia, one supposes that communists say the same thing about their own moral-liberal ideology, too. "It's more than a philosophy. It's a way of life!"

That's a pretty pathetic attempt at the smear tactic. You do much better work when you use the medium of the perverted cartoon. Besides, your fasco-collectivist ideology is really quite similar to the moral-liberal ideology of the environmentalist left.

1,065 posted on 08/27/2002 10:18:38 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: Dec31,1999
I am a libertarian, so why are you picking on people?

Who am I picking on?

1,066 posted on 08/27/2002 10:19:16 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: mercy
It's as much our site, collectively, as it is his now

I don't believe in collective ownership unless they truly are legal owners. I believe ownership resides with the legal owner.

It's a capitalist, free market system we live in. Jim started FR, he's responsible for FR, and he OWNS FR.

Nothing wrong with that. I'm going to buy some property later this week. I want it to be mine.

1,067 posted on 08/27/2002 10:19:32 PM PDT by xzins
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To: Jolly Rodgers
your fasco-collectivist ideology is really quite similar to the moral-liberal ideology of the environmentalist left.

I don't get that at all, and I've been reading CJ's posts for years.

1,068 posted on 08/27/2002 10:23:33 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: Torie
But we should still try to be friends, ---
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Lord knows I've tried, torie.
-- But the inate goodness in my pleas to CJ have fell on a hard, fundamentally unforgiving heart.

I gave up on him/her? long ago, perhaps about the same time that some here 'gave up' on converting me to the Rino cause. So it goes.
1,069 posted on 08/27/2002 10:23:48 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Jolly Rodgers
Sorry. I thought you knew.
1,070 posted on 08/27/2002 10:25:13 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: Dec31,1999
I see it all the time.
________________________________

So do I.
- I then respond in kind. -- We all do.
What else is new?
1,071 posted on 08/27/2002 10:28:21 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Dec31,1999
I don't get that at all, and I've been reading CJ's posts for years. I guess your experience has been different than mine. Consider that my words to CJ were just a reversed parrotting back of his own words to me. So, I suppose I should be wondering why you asked me the question, rather than her.
1,072 posted on 08/27/2002 10:29:16 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: Dec31,1999
Sorry. I thought you knew.

Thought I knew what?

1,073 posted on 08/27/2002 10:31:00 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: tpaine
Here was my post.

"libertarians" from tpaine, you're getting the wrong impression.

Exactly my point.

Why is it when the word libertarian is mentioned, I immediately have visions of a dogmatic, opininated anti law, anti government, porn and drug promoter, hateful, disrespectful, inconsiderate, pompous person who believes in tearing down any conservative gains the GOP makes? I almost think - "Oh no, watch out - I will be called stupid, ignorant, asked hateful questions."

The libertarian rhetoric I have come in contact with through FreeRepublic, Liberty Post and all the other anti sites does not reflect well on Libertarians.

It sounds more intelligent than DU but appears rather mean-spirited and hateful to me.

Of course, you and some others do not fit that description. Just the preponderence of it forms that impression.

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Now - I was replying to Liberal Classic's statements and copied this quote from his statement. However, I was just commenting on the part 'libertarians' and 'you're getting the wrong impression'. It was not directed at you and I told you I should have deleted the 'tpaine' part but did not since it was a quote. I was commenting on impressions of libertarians. I don't even know if you are a libertarian or fit in this category because all of these posts are running together now and I don't want to go back and reread them.

However, I stand by my comments in regard to the general impressions of the libertarian posters (again, this is not directed at you in any way because I don't know what you have posted other than the tacky attacks on people here.

Now - to make it clearer and show you that this was not directed at you, here is what I should have posted to make my point.

"To: Liberal Classic

"libertarians" ------ "you're getting the wrong impression".

Exactly my point.

Why is it when the word libertarian is mentioned, I immediately have visions of a dogmatic, opininated anti law, anti government, porn and drug promoter, hateful, disrespectful, inconsiderate, pompous person who believes in tearing down any conservative gains the GOP makes? I almost think - "Oh no, watch out - I will be called stupid, ignorant, asked hateful questions."

The libertarian rhetoric I have come in contact with through FreeRepublic, Liberty Post and all the other anti sites does not reflect well on Libertarians.

It sounds more intelligent than DU but appears rather mean-spirited and hateful to me.

Of course, you and some others do not fit that description. Just the preponderence of it forms that impression.

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And - again, I apologize if my meaning was unclear. I in no way was talking about you unless you fit my description of my impression of the libertarians.

This was a case of lazy posting on my part.

1,074 posted on 08/27/2002 10:34:37 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: Cultural Jihad
So, here's the real question I should have asked you:
What is the source of your assertion that the protesters threw rocks (and/or dirt clods) at the presidential motorcade?
Did you just make that up like I suspect? Or do you have a real source?
1,075 posted on 08/27/2002 10:38:36 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: ClancyJ; Cultural Jihad
Keep digging.
Your hidey hole ain't deep enough to cover all the hypocritical bull yet.

-- I'd suggest that the you take some lessons on dissembling from CJ. He's a master at the art of baiting & bashing his opponents with 'ideologue' rhetoric.
1,076 posted on 08/27/2002 10:46:37 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Jolly Rodgers
I am looking, but remember reading that a rock hit the vehicle which the White House press secretary was riding in. But no matter. By all accounts they were violent protesters, and personally I am not surprised that a self-avowed libertarian is here condemning the police who were dutifully discharging their duties to secure the inalienable rights of Americans in the face of violent anarchist and communist demonstrators.
1,077 posted on 08/27/2002 10:56:40 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: tpaine
I'd suggest that the you take some lessons ... from CJ. He's a master ...

For you, I would have to insist on prepayment of the fee, tpaine.

1,078 posted on 08/27/2002 10:59:09 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
CJ. --- What makes you think anyone rational would give you any sort of fee for anything?
1,079 posted on 08/27/2002 11:08:02 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Apparently, you are set on being disagreeable. Enjoy yourself. Wonder who you will pick on next - I'm going to bed.

By the way - apparently apologies and explanations don't work with libertarians. Looks like the battle is the game.

Are you a libertarian? Does my description fit you? Or are you going to make me go back and read your posts to decide for myself?

1,080 posted on 08/27/2002 11:29:28 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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