To: Quix
>NO, I wasn't meaning per se, you necessarily. I *DID* feel in some of your phrasing, sentences that what I'm talking about was lurking uncomfortably close. I suppose if Holy Spirit affirms to you what I was saying as applying to you in any degree, then you'd probably do well to take it to heart. But I was mostly raising a warning in general as triggered by what I felt as I read some of your phrases.I didn't feel any conviction of the Holy Spirit, but rather that I was falsely accused. You said here:
>You mentioned Jonah. God was happy to be more flexible with regard to Ninevah and was stern with Jonah because he wanted the destruction to follow through as originally slated. I think we must be cautious and averse to taking on Jonah's attitude toward Ninevah regardless of how much the U.S. may DESERVE such an attitude.
Jonah had said, "Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown." They repented from the king of Ninevah on down. There was no middle lukewarm compromise. God wasn't "more flexible" as they believed the prophet. He also wasn't "more flexible" 120 years later when they fell away and he destroyed them then. You inferred above that "we" must not take Jonah's attitude which you defined as wanting to stamp out Ninevah. I simply said that is not our attitude. Our attitude is this:
Ps 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.
Those who don't want to repent and who love their sin unto death are annoyed by that.
337 posted on
09/02/2002 4:28:20 AM PDT by
2sheep
To: 2sheep
THANKS FOR YOUR KIND REPLY,
2S: I didn't feel any conviction of the Holy Spirit, but rather that I was falsely accused.
Q: *******IF******* HOLY SPIRIT leave you or anyone free of any conviction--THEN--the perspective I'd felt in my spirit may well not be for you or whomever.
Q: However, after added prayer on yours and my last post, I ALSO feel constrained in my spirit to note:
Q: *******IF******* the shoe fits wherever, whenever, however, to whatever degree--then to that degree and fit, one would be wise to wear it and learn therefrom. This has been my experience amidst and after LOTS of attempts at slinging lots of well earned lightening bolts and warnings.
2S: Jonah had said, "Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown." They repented from the king of Ninevah on down. There was no middle lukewarm compromise
Q: Quite so. But Abraham asked if what--100, 50 even 10 souls were righteous--and God went with every number Abraham asked--which might arguably be described as being somewhat flexible [I realize God knew the reality but still, I don't think He was just giving Abraham glib, patronizing responses].
Q: I don't believe God has revealed to any prophet to my knowledge the number of righteous; nor the number of people hours or minutes in fasting and prayer; nor the set of Presidential, legislative actions or number of leaders required to sit in sack-cloth and ashes on Pennsylvania (sp?) avenue; nor the number of churches and individual Christians required to repent to each other and heal relationships; nor the number of abortion Dr's required to repent and make restitution etc. etc. etc. BEFORE GOD WOULD MODIFY THIS OR THAT SPECIFIC EVENT OF JUSTICE.
Q: I'm not aware of God declaring any where to date that *******ALL******* opportunities for mercy in every respect at every level for every individual, every group, every locale in the U.S. are 110% over and past and that every prayer etc. at this point is futile.
2S: Ps 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.
Q: YES! TRUE ENOUGH. Yet, I suspect there are ample contrasting, parallel Scriptures on speaking wisdom in mercy; truth in Love etc. And, it may be that you are called to do so more in judgement and I am called to do so more in Love. God sometimes apportions tasks and callings that way.
2S: Those who don't want to repent and who love their sin unto death are annoyed by that.
Q: If you are reflective and honest with yourself, I suspect you would agree that I've not been overly resistant to annoying people.
Q: I HAVE, however, tried very hard to make my words MORE HEARABLE, wise, winsome, compassionate where I-with-God's-help-can--except when speaking to pharisees and the out-right defiant and rebellious. I feel constrained in my spirit that such is the stance and approach God would have of me INSTEAD of my more traditional, decades more experienced and practiced years of lightening bolt slinging.
Q: I would merely add a suggestion that something about SOME of the nuances of SOME of your responses leave me constrained to encourage you to take such issues again to The Lord in prayer. But I certainly respect and support you in whatever Biblical stances you feel constrained to take.
Q: Bless you both in your continued ministry. LUB
338 posted on
09/02/2002 8:50:35 AM PDT by
Quix
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