And don't forget our Texas Southern Heritage! (not the school :)) 
Posted on 08/16/2002 3:44:14 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
Come see your entire position torn to shreds by the leader of the abolitionist movement!!!! ROTFLOL!!!!
I see that this is Chapter 19 of a book claiming that the Constitution of the United States is invalid. I think it is fair to label the book and everything in it "Tin Foil"
If the Constitution of The United States is invalid then "Do What Though Will is the whole of the law"
So9
Actually, the book is an argument by a prominent legal philosopher forwarding the notion that the constitution had been violated by the conduction of the war and the events in his wake.
Spooner's a very interesting and important character in American history. He and William Lloyd Garrison were the two main philosophers of the intellectual abolitionist movement. Look him up if you get a chance.
In a sense, I believe that is what he's complaining about - he's asserting the government has assumed a policy of might makes right free of any restraint, and that they've done so by tossing out the constitution through the waging of the war and everything in its wake.
If I remember correctly Spooner had a legitimate first hand grievance with the government that probably influenced his stance.
I think he owned some sort of a nineteenth century version of a UPS mail delivery service. He created competition with the post office and it made them lose money and lower their stamp prices, so Congress intervened and used statute to put Spooner out of business.
Malarkey, boy. You try to quote a once famous Satanist and can't do it because you can't spell 'thou'. If you aren't even familiar with Spooner's book you shouldn't try to horn in on a discussion of an essay from it. Servant of nine winos under a bridge? Is that what your nick means?
So I take it you side with the political power grabbers and petty tyrants over the real abolitionists? At least you're honest about your affiliations!
Do you think he's not one? Cause practically every analysis of that movement's intellectual side identifies Spooner and Garrison as the leaders. They're about the only two who consistently make the history books as well, plus Stowe I suppose as the literary side and Brown as the violent domestic terrorist branch of the movement.
This is the same man who wrote "A Treatise on the Unconstitutionality of American Slavery"
Very good! You know your history!
where he had little to say about the kind of men who would become the leaders of your confederacy.
That is nice and all, but completely misses his post-war book quoted from here. His critique of the northern participants in the war and after the war (as in the people you constantly defend, embrace, and promote) is one of the most scathing pieces he ever wrote.
I'm perfectly content with ceding that he was no friend of the south and that makes his testimony here all the more amazing. But even then as a staunch opponent of slavery, I don't believe he ever called Jefferson Davis the "chief murderer of the war." No, he saved that title for Ulysses S. Grant.
"Mr. Lincoln, you know that General Grant drinks."
"Drinks, does he? Well find out what he drinks and send a barrel of it to all my other generals!"
This is probably a legend rather than a fact.
Even so, the War Between the States came down to two things;
The North had superior manufactoring capacity and more men.
In this clash of Titans, Lee was the superior general, but the North could replace generals at will. Lincoln finally found Grant. Not a genius, but true fighting spirit.
In the end, the war was basically a bad idea.
To quote Shelby Foote, a Southern historian; "The South never should have picked that fight."
I am getting into middle age now. I am Texan, but I have lived in the North, the South, and on the Left Coast.
I served for ten years in the USMC. With Yankees, good ol' boys, surfers, and kids from the Great Lakes. And a heck of a lot of Texans. They were all good Americans.
Today's battle is not South or North, it is between Americans and the remnants of the Communists and the rabid idiots who want to murder us in the name of some non-existant so-called god.
Let us all try to remember that.
The Civil War is over, long since.
One other thing. There is no wrong in a Southerner taking pride in his heritage and the valor of his ancestors anymore than there is wrong in a Yankee boasting that his great-great-grandfather fought to save the Union.
The war was misplaced, but the valiant men on both sides fought with honor (except for Sherman, and he died a long time ago).
LOL! That's funny.
Well it worked for Crowley and Clinton.
And don't forget our Texas Southern Heritage! (not the school :))
States Rights are VITAL. The 10th amendment makes this very clear.
And the 10th amendment reserves all rights not granted to the FED to the states, and then to the people.
And don't forget our Texas Southern Heritage!
"R.E. Lee once paid a very large tribute to Texans. After a battle (sorry I forget which one, look it up for yourself) he sent in a Texas Regiment.
They won.
Quoth R.E. Lee; "Texans always move them.
'Nuff said.
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