To: Spunky
I don't know if you have noticed but after the media left us all to believe the video was a real child being raped, they are just now saying the "cartoon video rape scene." If the rape videos were actually smutoons, then why all the spin??? Why not come out and tell the truth for once? (I know, I'm really reaching here!)And why oh why are people still believing that they were actual child porn??
Not that I don't trust you Spunky, but can anyone else verify that they have heard this via the media? I have'nt, but I don't watch alot of TV.
To: All; CAPPSMADNESS; ~Kim4VRWC's~
Also, a police forensics examiner testified that while searching files on Westerfield's hard drive and computer disks, he found suggestive photos of Westerfield's girlfriend's teenage daughter named Danielle.
Detective James Watkins testified he copied the hard drives of four computers and the contents of a "Palm Pilot" device in Westerfield's home three days after van Dam was reported missing. Investigators also seized three CD-ROMs and two "zip" disks, he said.
A total of 64,000 images were found in "very highly organized" files, Watkins said.
"Overall, there were thousands of pictures," Watkins said, but of "a questionable nature there were less than a hundred."
Included was a series of six showing a bikini-clad teen posing suggestively on a lounge and in a hot tub.
"I found pictures of a girl named `Danielle' who appeared to be the daughter of a (Westerfield) girlfriend," Watkins said.
One photo, according to Watkins, was of her with a towel over her head.
Defense attorney Robert Boyce challenged Watkins' appearance as a witness before he testified, claiming his testimony would be prejudicial, that there was no evidence Westerfield was the one who downloaded the other "questionable" photos and that they were legal.
But Dusek (pictured, right) argued that Watkins' testimony would support a charge of misdemeanor child pornography and would go to the issue of motive in van Dam's murder.
Superior Court Judge H. Ronald Domnitz examined the prosecution photographs before allowing Watkins to testify.
Among the other items found, Watkins said, were photographs of young females posing with or performing sexual acts with animals and several animated series, including one depicting rape.
In cross-examining Watkins, Boyce was able to get him to acknowledge that there was no evidence Westerfield was the person who downloaded the images, and that the investigator was unable to determine the ages of the females in the photographs. Watkins also said another detective examining the files told him there were no images of prepubescent girls.
March Preliminary Hearing
To: CAPPSMADNESS; Spunky
As I posted in #1512, the jury saw videos with real females being raped per Mr. Feldman himself. His only argument to the jury is that the females were not under eighteen. I have no idea if they actually children or not, I have not seen them. The jury is supposed to decide.
I think there is confusion because the jury was shown three types of things in this area: still photos, animes AND two of these videos. The animes were shown in addition to the other two types of media, which is why we are hearing about "cartoons" and such. But animes are not the only type of porn shown to the jury.
To: CAPPSMADNESS
Two interesting things from this snippet of Watkin's testimony. 1) He's talking about the videos, and that they have text. 2) the beastiality came from Neal's room.
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By Mr. Clarke:
Q perhaps you can keep them flat, Mr. Watkins.
A sorry.
Q do they depict the tying and binding of a child?
A yes.
Q and the sexual assault of that child?
A yes, sir.
Q do they also include text?
A yes, they do.
Q what is text?
A text is just words that are superimposed on top of
the -- of each frame or each graphic image.
Q does there appear to be text with regard to what,
all of the images in that particular exhibit, some of
them, what?
A each image has some text on it.
Q okay.
Just generally what is the type of text that's
contained on them?
A generally speaking it -- the -- it depicts a girl being
surprised by somebody behind them. Another one
depicts someone talking about a girl who -- that had
a bump on their head and how they wanted to do
sexual acts on them. Some of the words we're
talking about what are you doing, what are you
going to do.
Q okay.
Do they generally depict what one person is saying
in the anime' and then what the other person is
saying as well?
A yes, sir.
Q including words of the child?
A yes.
Q does that exhibit consist of just one series or more
than one series?
A it consists of two series.
Q is there any differences between the two series?
A they are different, but they are -- they are
different series, but they are similar in theme.
Mr. Clarke: your honor, i've also previously marked
and described for the record a series of additional
pages marked exhibit 148.
By Mr. Clarke:
Q and if I can show those to you, --
Mr. Feldman: I'm sorry. Is this 148?
The court: 148.
By Mr. Clarke:
Q Mr. Watkins, do you recognize that exhibit?
A yes, I do.
Q where was it obtained from?
A this was obtained from the computer evidence
from the Westerfield residence. I believe this came
from the computer in the bedroom.
Q all right.
What does it depict?
A it depicts several digital photographs of
bestiality.
Q when you use the term bestiality, what do you
mean?
A bestiality is a term to depict pictures or the act of
a person having sexual acts with animals.
1,661 posted on
08/18/2002 7:54:42 PM PDT by
Jaded
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