Judge Mudd Refuses Sequester Plea: Westerfield Jury Verdict In Sep? (Aug. 16th Verdict Watch)

Union Trib ^ | August 15, 2002 | Jeff Dillion/Steve Perez

[domestice]

thank you Kim.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much for the kudos and for the insight on what would have happened if an animal moved the body!!!

Sadly, because the jury cannot ask questions directly of the witnesses I suspect they might leap to wrong conclusions.

[pyx]

My two favorite questions are still unanswered.

What's with the .22 shell casing ?

What's with the telephone call to the Van Dam household on February 16, 2002 that Dusek and Mudd wouldn't allow to be addressed during the trial ?

[Jrabbit]

Publish it here! Right. It took me 1 hour just to figure out how to get to it! Download Adobe etc. Ott states in one of the warrants that he says to DW(while retracing the trip)that he(Ott) hopes the searchers find her soon. DW supposedly says that the LE has done a very thourough job and so he thinks they will find her soon. Ott asks how soon, Dave and DW says "sooner than you think". This is after DW blurts out that the desert would be a good place to hide a body. These aren't the exact words. Do you think this is what Feldman was talking about?

[Freedom2specul8]

It's the best post on the entire thread..and so true.

[Freedom2specul8]

On a side note, if they had one witness that put danielle innocently in the MH, innocent explanations for various pieces of evidence in this case DW would have had more support.

If DW didn't have the child porn (that some dispute at this time) I'd be more concerned about him.. but unfortunately, he's tainted because of it.

Both DW and the VD's will have a lot to answer for in Heaven..even if DW didn't do it.

G'nite ...

[JudyB1938]

I woke up in time to put the fire out. I don't know what woke me up. I think maybe God sent an angel! But I guarantee you that I made sure nobody ever got close to a drink of mine again. And that incident was supposed to be a JOKE - not evil the way it's happening to Westerfield. But I don't have to worry about stuff like that any more. I'm now pure as the driven snow. COUGH COUGH Mercy! Almost choked to death on that one. (grin)

I don't remember what you said that I might have mistook, so apparently I didn't. But I know what you mean. I was teasing Jaded and got to thinking I might have been misunderstood myself.

I think we are all so special, don't you? We have extremely intelligent and experienced professionals guiding us through this examination. We sure are learning a lot. (Thanks, guys/gals - this has been a very good day) It's a crying shame they weren't on the defense team!

[domestice]

I asked the same thing about the casing..someone yesterday, I think John J..but can't remember, said pros. explained it away as it must have fallen out of a pant cuff or something like that...then evidentally it was filed away.....

If I'm wrong someone correct me please.

[JudyB1938]

What's the URL? Maybe I can figure out how to do it for you.

[Jrabbit]

That's right. Dusek said it could have fallen out of someones pant cuff.

[crystalk]

My guess is he "popped" Danielle in the mouth too, hard enough to dislodge four baby teeth already beginning to loosen, but not hard enough to dislodge the two front teeth which were the permanent teeth.

[John Jamieson]

No. In fact we've heard all that before, several weeks ago.

We also know these cops lied in the search warrant requests. Remember the one that claimed the motorhome was at DW's at 10:30pm on Friday night? Or that Brenda never told DW about the father/daughter dance so the only way DW could know was for Danielle to have told him? Cops just say whatever they need to to get the judge to sign it.

I'm pretty sure the real sealed info is a tape in DW's own voice, not some cop's notes or claims.

[dread78645]

If you remove all three forensic fields from the equation, what evidence is left?

He said - she said. --and a mummy-guy who said a dead Danielle was out selling Girl scout cookies.

[domestice]

I would have liked to have seen some witnesses testify as to seeing Danielle & the other kids, but it could be, the children may not want to fess up if it happened, or Danielle may have just went in by herself, hence no witnesses but her.

FWIW

goodnight Kim!

[JudyB1938]

That would be hilarious if it weren't so true.

[crystalk]

While we use our imaginations to see what went on in the BED room.

[Jrabbit]

It was Clearvisions post #807. Sorry I'm so helpless with this. My computer genious son went back to college last week, so I'm on my own! Thanks.

[John Jamieson]

I'm sure Feldman would have loved to have that kind of conclusive evidence, but remember he's not required to produce it. The defence does not have to prove the accussed is innocent.

[mouser]

just a thought

could of she died from a stab wound or a .22 gunshot if the stab wound was in the frount of the stomache or the gunshot from say left to right close to the front of the cavity all the wound chanel as well as exit and entrance wound would/could of been eaten by the animals then a few maggots around the wound (they like those torn open spots) basically the evidence is gone

a lot of fluid would of been lost at the site of death giving less to lose at recovery site

just an idea
hope i am not too far out in left field

[dread78645]

Would those very time-specific blowflies still be attracted to tissue that had been frozen and then thawed out?

Anyone?

So you want me to experiment with my Sunday chicken supper.
The things I do for you guys ...