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Judge Mudd Refuses Sequester Plea: Westerfield Jury Verdict In Sep? (Aug. 16th Verdict Watch)
Union Trib ^ | August 15, 2002 | Jeff Dillion/Steve Perez

Posted on 08/16/2002 6:39:20 AM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: dread78645
FINALLY. I finally understand it. Thank you for putting DNA analysis into simple terms.

Some are talking about the dog bed. No wonder Feldman made a big to-do of it. I'll bet HE thought it was used to transport Danielle's body, too! And that could be the reason we heard no more about it. Muddy Duddy wouldn't let him bring out anything that smacked of looking elsewhere, other than Westerfield himself.
961 posted on 08/16/2002 10:47:54 PM PDT by JudyB1938
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To: crystalk
It just struck me now that Damon VanDam might have been telling the truth when he said the dog had a nosebleed,but I've never head of a dog running into someone's shin hard enough to start anything bleeding.So I got to thinking about what could cause that dog's nose to bleed.

I'd guess that Damon really did pop that dog,but whether he did it with his hand or whith his foot is speculating. Does anyone here have any pics of Damon that were taken right after the disappearance was reported? Are either of his hands swollen,cut,or disfigured?

962 posted on 08/16/2002 10:48:32 PM PDT by sawsalimb
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To: wonders
I've wondered if the fiber people looked for the orange fibers in the VD's house. Or any matching fibers. I know they refused to let the defense do any investigating there.
963 posted on 08/16/2002 10:50:22 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Alamo-Girl
The body was dried out in a refridgerator, before she was placed at Dehesa. Find that refrigerator and the case is solved.
964 posted on 08/16/2002 10:50:52 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: crystalk
Could it have been the same drug that killed Danielle?
That's a very big possibility, isn't it! Do I remember correctly - they were not able to test for toxins in her body?
965 posted on 08/16/2002 10:51:49 PM PDT by JudyB1938
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To: John Jamieson
Those are just more troubling questions..why did he sell that van so quickly? Then he went out looking for her, when LE told him not to...also, didn't they check that spot by Dehesa earlier in the search, then someone had a 'hunch' to go back & look again..& they found Danielle the second time....?????????
966 posted on 08/16/2002 10:51:57 PM PDT by domestice
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To: domestice
excellent post......
967 posted on 08/16/2002 10:52:01 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Jrabbit
The fibre folks got nothing from the VD home to compare against fibres, with the exception of the carpet sample.
So, no, no orange anything from the VD home was tested. Only the carpet sample. Melvin Kong did look for orange fibres in Danielle's bed/bedding and found none. That's all we and the jury know.
968 posted on 08/16/2002 10:52:57 PM PDT by wonders
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To: Jaded
night Jaded!
969 posted on 08/16/2002 10:54:04 PM PDT by domestice
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To: John Jamieson
The body was dried out in a refridgerator, before she was placed at Dehesa. Find that refrigerator and the case is solved.

Boy, you sure cut to the chase on that one. So simple and eliminates all other speculation.

970 posted on 08/16/2002 10:56:02 PM PDT by JudyB1938
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To: wonders
After reading the search warrants tonight, I see that the jury doesn't know about lots of stuff. At one point, BVD says the kids played in DW's living room.
971 posted on 08/16/2002 10:56:32 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: John Jamieson
I believe that you are correct.
972 posted on 08/16/2002 10:57:21 PM PDT by sawsalimb
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To: wonders
Thank you for your explanations!

The term "shortage of flies" was incorrect. I should have said, the anamoly of the dating of the fly infestation v. the date when she went missing.

Thinking like a juror, the "official" evaporation explanation would strike me as very weak because I suspect the fluid would be more gooey and ought to leave some residue. Plus, if the fluid should be under the body and the cavity was still moist, it seems there ought to be some moisture there as well.

IOW, if I were a juror I would dismiss that explanation and assume that either a predator did move the body without leaving any obvious tracks or that the real perp took the already decaying body and planted it there.

I would like to see answers to your questions also!!! It is so very troubling that the jury can't ask their own questions at trial.

973 posted on 08/16/2002 10:58:14 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: JudyB1938
I'd start by finding out who among the swinging 6 had a vacant house or vacation home. Or control of a home for sale. That's probably 3 to 10 right there. We know several are into realestate.
974 posted on 08/16/2002 11:00:49 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: John Jamieson
John, I think I found the "explosive as a confession" in the search warrants Clearvision found. Did you read them?
975 posted on 08/16/2002 11:01:07 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: UCANSEE2; domestice
"a wise man forseeth the evil, and hideth himself... ....I think though, there is a lesson learned here, AVOID people who engage in unsavory behavior...!!!! 958 posted on 8/17/02 12:46 AM Central by domestice "

Golden comments nomination (edited slightly)

976 posted on 08/16/2002 11:01:15 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: John Jamieson
Thanks for sharing your views!
977 posted on 08/16/2002 11:01:30 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: JudyB1938
Oh my heavens!!! That is frightening to think about...I hope everything was allright!

Believe me, I like you Judy, have my suspicions of people in high places involved in those child porn rings!

BTW, thank you for posting those articles earlier, I hope you know that my earlier comment was meant to be funny....I mistook a comment earlier, then I thought well, someone might mis take me too!!
978 posted on 08/16/2002 11:01:33 PM PDT by domestice
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To: Jrabbit
fessup. Publish it here!
979 posted on 08/16/2002 11:02:40 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: Alamo-Girl
You'd make a great juror!

Well, if a scavenging animal moved the body, it couldn't have moved it THAT far. And if the animal moved the body AFTER the fluids had drained from it... well, there would be a trail of hair and some of that viscous fluid... and the body would have fallen apart, much more than just a missing foot. So I don't think it was moved by an animal. A juror might think so, though.

980 posted on 08/16/2002 11:05:29 PM PDT by wonders
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