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Judge Mudd Refuses Sequester Plea: Westerfield Jury Verdict In Sep? (Aug. 16th Verdict Watch)
Union Trib ^ | August 15, 2002 | Jeff Dillion/Steve Perez

Posted on 08/16/2002 6:39:20 AM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Gee, I wasn't going to do this. At the PH virtually none of the tests were back and the objective was to give enough information to hold DW over for trial.

The Forensic Dentist didn't give the same answers at the trial, and Jeff Dusek, esquire was NOT best pleased.
941 posted on 08/16/2002 10:33:48 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: Alamo-Girl
It would be so interesting to know what questions the jury has! I know we've had thousands. At least, I have!
942 posted on 08/16/2002 10:33:50 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Dave_in_Upland
There is no doubt that BVD and DW had something going on. Did you see how she waved and looked at him in the first days in court, in PH?

Even Damon looked quite kindly at him and only later went ballistic AFTER I pointed out how neither Van Dam looked at DW at all as if he were someone who had harmed their daughter.

943 posted on 08/16/2002 10:34:32 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: wonders
Oops. It's there now. All fixed up.
944 posted on 08/16/2002 10:34:38 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: domestice
You know what I started doing? Just on principles,I got into the habit of stopping on the way back to the hotel every evening and buying something. No huge purchases,but something every day,so that I had a dated,timed receipt that would place me at a specific location,at a specific time. It wasn't much,but it was something.
945 posted on 08/16/2002 10:34:42 PM PDT by sawsalimb
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To: JudyB1938
To me, it's a "could have". Just like it "could have" identified any one of the others in the "genetically diverse" population group.

There are some 3 billion possible pairs in a complete DNA strand. The estimate is about 80,000 of those make a human being, the rest is useless baggage left over from evolution (and no, I'm not gonnin get into the C vs. E flamage).

Current thinking is 20,000 - 30,000 of the pairs make a unique individual. The remainder are more or less "generic" -- how to make liver cells, bone cells, skin cells, red blood cells, etc.

So an identity match looks at the group of pairs that relates to an individual :

male - female ?, hair color, eye color, blood type, alcohol ametabolic, sickle cell , drop earlobe, etc ...

So far 25 markers (pair sequences) have been proven to be unique to an individual and accepted in court.

So if you can match "female, black hair, O negative, brown eye, no drop earlobe" -- you now have 5 of the 25 markers; and a very good ID of a body.

If you the come up with another 7 or 8 (12-13 total) that's just about ironclad.

946 posted on 08/16/2002 10:34:53 PM PDT by dread78645
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To: Jrabbit
If I could be a fly on the wall in there!
947 posted on 08/16/2002 10:35:44 PM PDT by domestice
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To: wonders
I love it when you smile. :)

yes it's within the range..and was a bit deceptive IMHO. ;-)

It must take atty's years to learn when to say "objection, leading the witness" ha ha... They've pulled us this way and that...for months. Still are!!
948 posted on 08/16/2002 10:38:07 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Jrabbit
I agree! I do hope the reporters spend some time interviewing the jurors so we can know what they were thinking and discuss it here.

Truly, if I could change anything with the courts, it would be to allow the jury to hear whatever they want to hear and to ask their own questions of the witnesses.

949 posted on 08/16/2002 10:38:10 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Remember Damon's wild trip through the desert beginning before sunrise and passing by Dehesa on Feb 16th? On Feb 18th he told searchers to please look closer to San Diego. The body was dumped around the 16th in a place that was not really a good hiding place near a golf course and casino. Like it was supposed to found pretty soon .... need the insurance money? Why did he get rid of that van? Needed a new BMW to help ease he's pain?
950 posted on 08/16/2002 10:39:25 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: Jaded
Well, I didn't talk about it before - but I passed out when I got home. But not before I'd put bacon on to cook. I set the kitchen on fire. As you can see, it was a pretty traumatic experience for me.

Was the shot originally intended for one of those young people they were trying to pick up and take home to abuse? Could it have been a date/rape drug?
951 posted on 08/16/2002 10:40:12 PM PDT by JudyB1938
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To: pinz-n-needlez
Night.
952 posted on 08/16/2002 10:40:28 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: John Jamieson
his pain!
953 posted on 08/16/2002 10:40:43 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: sawsalimb
I believe Danielle died on the second floor of her home, with no human intervenors but her parents, whether through drugs, violence, or some combination of the two...

I would not be surprised if the later-shredded dog bed was used to transport her out of her home, and possibly onto DW property or vehicles.

954 posted on 08/16/2002 10:41:10 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: Alamo-Girl
Actually, there was no shortage of flies.

IIRC, the possible explanation offerred about the lack of fluids was, I believe, evaporation. I'm not sure who offerred that possible explanation (Haskell?), though.

I do recall that either Faulkner or Haskell or both went back to verify with the ME and/or LE that there was no indication the body had been moved, as in "are you sure the body wasn't moved?"

It's good to try to think like a juror! If I were a juror, I'd be going nuts with questions which were not addressed in the trial. One being "Where are the PJ fibres? Did you even find them in her bed? You sure didn't find them on her body!"
955 posted on 08/16/2002 10:41:49 PM PDT by wonders
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To: JudyB1938
Could it have been the same drug that killed Danielle?
956 posted on 08/16/2002 10:44:22 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: wonders
Do you think anyone would have jumped at DW, if the girl missing had been a sleep over neighborhood kid, instead of the vD daughter? No, they would be looking real hard at DAMON.
957 posted on 08/16/2002 10:45:25 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: sawsalimb
a wise man forseeth the evil, and hideth himself...
I'm paraphrasing there from the greatest book..
but theres nothing wrong w/ being prudent. Though, it is kind of scary when you think about it...things like that could happen to anyone of us.

If DW is innocent,imagine how this has destroyed his life. Not that God couldn't help him to recover, but if he is truly innocent, he must be going through hell on earth!

I know I live everyday praying for God's grace in my life.
I think though, there is a lesson learned here, AVOID people who engage in unsavory behavior, like the VD's!!!!
958 posted on 08/16/2002 10:46:36 PM PDT by domestice
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To: John Jamieson
Thanks for sharing your views!

But in your scenario, why wasn't there any fluid found under her body?

959 posted on 08/16/2002 10:47:42 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Jaded
Thanks, Jaded!

Well, here it is, folks:


960 posted on 08/16/2002 10:47:42 PM PDT by wonders
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