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Judge Mudd Refuses Sequester Plea: Westerfield Jury Verdict In Sep? (Aug. 16th Verdict Watch)
Union Trib ^ | August 15, 2002 | Jeff Dillion/Steve Perez

Posted on 08/16/2002 6:39:20 AM PDT by FresnoDA

Judge denies defense motion to sequester jury

By Jeff Dillon and Steve Perez
SIGNONSANDIEGO

August 15, 2002

Judge William D. Mudd addressed counsel on a motion by defense attorney Steven Feldman regarding media access to jurors in the trial of defendant David Westerfield at San Diego courthouse, August 15, 2002. Westerfield is accused of the kidnapping and murder of seven-year old Danielle van Dam from her Sabre Springs home, last February.  REUTERS/POOL/Dan TrevanArguing that media coverage was creating a "lynch mob mentality" that could pressure jurors to return a guilty verdict, the defense attorney for David Westerfield today asked the judge yet again to sequester the jury.

While the jury completed its first week of deliberations without a verdict, Superior Court Judge William Mudd denied the request and a related motion to "pull the plug" on television and radio coverage of the courtroom proceedings, but agreed to set aside a private room for jurors to take breaks. Defense attorney Steven Feldman had argued that reports suggested jurors felt like they were under siege, unable to leave their deliberating room, go to lunch or walk home without being watched or followed.

"We have no assurance that they are not be intimidated ... by the presence of the media," Feldman told Mudd during a morning hearing. "We can think of only one fair resolution to that: Get the jury out of harm's way."

 

'Broccoli heads'

He cited an incident earlier in the week in which radio talk show hosts from KFI-AM 640 in Los Angeles broadcast from outside the courthouse, waving stalks of broccoli around and reportedly calling jurors "broccoli heads" for being unable to return a quick guilty verdict.

Westerfield, 50, could face the death penalty if convicted of kidnapping 7-year-old Danielle van Dam from her family's Sabre Springs home on Feb. 2 and killing her. Jurors are in their sixth day of deliberations.

Lead prosecutor Jeff Dusek disagreed with Feldman's interpretations of the jury's complaints.

"Whether or not any guilty verdict in this case would be based on a siege mentality or the meida I think is pure speculation and utterly false in this case," Dusek said.

What the jurors had complained about was being watched all the time, he said.

"That hardly equates to being under siege," he said.

 

Trust in the jury

Mudd dismissed most of Feldman's concerns, saying that the jurors had only asked a bailiff to keep reporters a little bit farther away, though an alternate juror reported that he or she had been followed to his car.

Media coverage has diminished since the jurors began deliberating, the judge said.

"The synopsis programs on the two local TV networks are not in place," he said. "The talking heads are doing nothing but speculating about what the jury may or may not be thinking."

Mudd said there were no signs that jurors were being harassed by the public, especially since their names and faces haven't been publicized.

"We've all sat here and picked this jury, know their makeup and know their dedication to this cause," Mudd said. "I would prefer to think that any verdict they make in this case would be based upon the evidence."

Sequestering the jury also wouldn't protect them from any public reaction to the verdict, Mudd said.

 

'The activities of a few'

"The tragedy is, the majority of the people in this courtroom are abiding by the court's orders and working very hard to insure they, meaning the media, do not cause something to occur that is going to cause a mistrial," Mudd said. "Not all of them feel that way as is very apparent with the activities of a few."

Mudd took aim at two radio program hosts from Los Angeles who he previously described as "idiots."

"I suppose it's entertainment out of LA. I hope it stays in LA," he said. "The shows those two gentlemen put on made the court incredulous as to what they were attempting to do."

Mudd also announced:

 



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To: CAPPSMADNESS
Did you read the warrants that Clearvision found?
921 posted on 08/16/2002 10:11:39 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: John Jamieson
You know,I first thought about that while watching the news in a hotel one night. Up until then,it had just never occurred to me as something to even bother thinking about,but that evening,the news was full up with some murder case(been so long that I couldn't begin to tell you which one,lol),and I got to pondering. There I was,all by myself,no roomies,no one to provide an alibi,and driving around with out-of-state tags on the truck. No real acquaintances in town,other than the people at the plant,and I only knew a few of those. It was extremely sobering.
922 posted on 08/16/2002 10:11:44 PM PDT by sawsalimb
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To: JudyB1938
Ding, ding, ding.

We have a winner. IMHO
923 posted on 08/16/2002 10:12:32 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: wonders
Thank you for your reply! I'm trying to think like a juror, who doesn't have the benefit of being able to talk back and forth with someone with your experience.

When you mentioned the absence of fluids under the body, my ears perked up and I immediately made an association between the moisture needs of the flies. I'm thinking it'll be curiosities like this that'll move the jurors to draw a potentially incorrect conclusion.

924 posted on 08/16/2002 10:13:52 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: sawsalimb
What about a zippered dog bed cover?
925 posted on 08/16/2002 10:14:12 PM PDT by paix
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To: pinz-n-needlez
At first, I thought you were calling me a ding-a-ling. Well, I've been called worse. haha
926 posted on 08/16/2002 10:14:23 PM PDT by JudyB1938
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To: Jrabbit
not yet, I was hoping to drink another Mt. Dew and go back and read them
927 posted on 08/16/2002 10:15:36 PM PDT by CAPPSMADNESS
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To: Jaded
Never got around to planting them, eh?
928 posted on 08/16/2002 10:15:44 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: wonders; dread78645
"The body wasn't desiccated, Kimmy. They recovered some 180ml of fluid from the lung cavity IIRC. Unless they stuck her body in a drying oven and weighed her before and after, there is no telling how much moisture was still available.--dread "

Dread, look at underlined testimony..dissection occurred.

Wonders---, Indeed, his testimony changed between PH and the Trial.

PRELIMINARY HEARING
http://members.cox.net/jeneal/PrelimTranscripts/PVW311.txt
12 Q WERE YOU ABLE TO DETERMINE HOW LONG SHE'D 13 BEEN DEAD? 14 A WITHIN A BROAD RANGE, YES. 15 Q HOW DID YOU MAKE THAT DETERMINATION? 16 A WELL, JUST EVALUATING THE DECOMPOSITION AND 17 THE OTHER -- THE ANIMAL ACTIVITY, REALLY. IT'S 18 CERTAINLY CONSISTENT WITH THE THREE-AND-A-HALF WEEKS 19 SHE'D BEEN MISSING.

http://members.cox.net/jeneal/PrelimTranscripts/020311p1.txt
1 Q. At what point, the 11th -- I mean how far do I go 2 before you say no, I guess is what I'm really asking? 3 A. Well, the body is decomposed and mummified. It 4 certainly has been out there weeks. I don't think it's one 5 week. I think it's more than one week. 6 Q. Okay. 7 A. Two, two and a half, three, three and half. All 8 of those would be consistent.


TRIAL
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/danielle/transcripts/20020605-9999-pm2.html

A. WELL, THE BODY WAS OF A YOUNG WHITE FEMALE IN A 26 STATE OF MARKED DECOMPOSITION. IN ADDITION TO THE 27 DECOMPOSITION, THERE WAS EXTENSIVE ANIMAL FEEDING ON THE BODY. 28 SO A LOT OF THE TISSUE ON THE BODY WAS MISSING. AND THE FACE 3711 1 WAS INTACT, THE SKIN WAS MUMMIFIED OR JUST DRIED, BUT THE 2 FEATURES WERE STILL QUITE RECOGNIZABLE. 3 THE HAIR WAS PRESENT AND RECOGNIZABLE AS BLONDE AND 4 FAIRLY LONG. HOWEVER, FROM BELOW THE COLLAR BONE, THE ENTIRE 5 FRONT OF THE BODY, ALL THE SKIN AND THE MUSCLE, SOME OF THE 6 MUSCLE EVEN WAS MISSING BY THE ANIMALS

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/danielle/transcripts/20020606-9999-am1.html
Q: WERE YOU ABLE TO GIVE US A BALLPARK ESTIMATE ON TIME OF DEATH FOR DANIELLE?A: WELL, JUST LOOKING AT THE BODY, IT WAS CLEAR TO ME SHE HAD BEEN DEAD FOR A CONSIDERABLE PERIOD OF TIME. AND JUST LOOKING AT THE BODY ALONE, NOT TAKING ANY CIRCUMSTANCES INTO CONSIDERATION, I WOULD SAY FROM TEN DAYS TO POSSIBLY SIX WEEKS


Q: WHY DO YOU SAY THAT, DOCTOR?A: WELL, IT WOULD TAKE A MINIMUM OF TEN DAYS OUTSIDE IN THE ENVIRONMENT TO GET THE EXTREME DEGREE OF MUMMIFICATION AND HAVE THE PUTREFACTION GO THROUGH MOST OF ITS PROCESS AND THEN SORT OF DISAPPEAR SO THAT THINGS LIKE THE LIPS WERE ALREADY, WERE NOT SWOLLEN, THEY WERE SORT OF BACK TO NOT NORMAL SIZE, BUT THEY HAD RECEDED. WE SEE THIS IN CASES WHERE BODIES ARE FOUND IN THE DESERT, FOR INSTANCE. I KNEW IT WOULD BE A MINIMUM OF TEN DAYS. AND THE MAXIMUM, WELL, THE HEART AND THE LUNGS WERE STILL IDENTIFIABLE AND, IN FACT, I WAS ABLE TO DISSECT THEM IN ALMOST A NORMAL FASHION. SO IT WASN'T A LONG TIME; IT WASN'T MONTHS. SO IT'S SUBJECTIVE. IT'S AN ESTIMATE. THAT'S MY ESTIMATE.Q: AND THAT IS FROM THE TIME OF THE AUTOPSY YOU'RE COUNTING BACK TEN DAYS OR SIX WEEKS?A: UNTIL THE TIME I EXAMINED HER ON THE SCENE BASICALLY

929 posted on 08/16/2002 10:15:51 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Alamo-Girl
Well, the fluids which would have drained from the body would have been much later in the putrefaction process, long after blowflies would have been interested in the body. It's a gruesome thing to think about, but that's how it is.
930 posted on 08/16/2002 10:16:53 PM PDT by wonders
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To: cynwoody
Even older kids crumble under LE. Look no further than Michael Crowe and his friends in San Diego County.
931 posted on 08/16/2002 10:19:23 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
OK, Kim you earned yourself one. Glad to see it! :)

Actually, his testimony did not change, per se. As I said earlier, three and a half weeks is within the range of ten days to six weeks. It all depends on how the lawyer asks the question what the answer will be, you see. The questions often "lead" the answers. One must watch out for that in a trial.

932 posted on 08/16/2002 10:19:41 PM PDT by wonders
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To: JudyB1938
The childhood.... I won't tell if you won't tell... yes, I remember that too.

The question about the shot has been asked before. After all it was intended for someone else. Who? One of the girls? He told Redden he usually didn't do that. Also that if he stayed he'd probably fall asleep at the bar.
933 posted on 08/16/2002 10:21:37 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: JudyB1938
Nah. :-)

Your post just 'rang a bell' for me. I think your explanation is close to the t-r-u-t-h. It's the scenario that makes the most sense to me.

I try to save my venom for Damon. lol
934 posted on 08/16/2002 10:21:43 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: paix
You know,that just might be a very good answer...

Any of you smart folks here who know more about this than I do have a take on this?

possible scenario:Danielle VanDam dies(possibly unintentionally)on the second floor of her home. The (allegedly) grownup VanDams freak out,and move the body inside the dog bed. The dog,doing her job,and protecting the girl,jumps the VanDams. Damon pops the dog on the head,hard enough to stun the dog,and start the dog's nose to bleeding.The body is then removed to parts unknown,inside the dog bed.

Okay,punch holes in it-there have to be at least a few there.

935 posted on 08/16/2002 10:22:14 PM PDT by sawsalimb
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To: sawsalimb
You just pray the Lord will spare!
936 posted on 08/16/2002 10:26:31 PM PDT by domestice
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To: CAPPSMADNESS
Thank you for your reply!

Freeper wonders remembers this being mentioned in testimony.

I was trying to think like a juror. IMHO, every anamoly ought to have a simple, natural and straightforward explanation. Something like this would scream to me if I were on the jury, i.e. there must be an explanation.

If I were sitting there, I would assume that the body had to have released fluids and since there were none where she was found, the body had to have been moved.

If I were leaning to a "guilty" verdict, I would have assumed that the body was moved by a predator, perhaps drug out of a garbage bag or something.

If I were leaning to a "not guilty" verdict, I would have figured she was killed, decayed elsewhere and then moved by the perp.

I might also figure the absence of fluids would indicate that the body wasn't "there" opened-up for very long - thus explaining the shortage of flies.

I wish the jurors could chat on a forum with the witnesses to get their questions answered... sigh

937 posted on 08/16/2002 10:27:39 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: pinz-n-needlez
Apparently not. And then to find out he'd had a dog too with a dog bed in the RV storage compartment. Tossed a wrench into that.
938 posted on 08/16/2002 10:28:57 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: Jaded
WEll good, Jaded. Nice to know at least one of his brilliant plans failed.

I'm going to call it a night. Thank you, all, for the sparkly conversations, a few of which I could follow.

Wonders, I'll try not to dream about the scenarios you were alluding to. :-)
939 posted on 08/16/2002 10:31:58 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: John Jamieson
Thanks JJ... wrt:Ctv..we just gotta use that mute button more often.

The ME said 10 days - 6 weeks (10 days - 42 days) and the mummyologist said 28 - 42 days

how much experience has haskell had with mummification? I did not hear that portion of his testimony.

Thanks to mommya.....we got this timeline
http://www.courttv.com/trials/westerfield/timeline/time_of_death.html
Blackbourne, Rodriguez and Wecht's (a defense expert) dates overlap. (1st - 6th)

haskell, goff and hall, overlap with each other. At least one of the bug guys, I think hall is the guy from missouri hasn't seen a body in the condition Danielle's body was in.

940 posted on 08/16/2002 10:32:54 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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