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Jurors To Hear Recorded Westerfield Tapes: Mudd Still Wrestling With Media! (VERDICT WATCH-Aug.14th)
Union Trib ^ | August 14, 2002 | San Diego Staff

Posted on 08/13/2002 10:12:33 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: UCANSEE2
You are an outstanding HTML instructor.
961 posted on 08/14/2002 10:29:45 PM PDT by demsux
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To: FresnoDA
Sorry Fres,

I cannot accept the award tonight.

I understand that one of the prizes includes Brenda, Barb and Denise serving at my whim...

Like I said, it made me feel like I could puke, just like denise felt when she got back to the VD's house.

962 posted on 08/14/2002 10:32:09 PM PDT by demsux
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To: demsux
Remember "slides"...I'm surprised they didn't take "slides" of the bloodstains, instead of polaroids.

LOL!

963 posted on 08/14/2002 10:32:18 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: UCANSEE2
Hey U,
Did you include the "congressman"?
964 posted on 08/14/2002 10:33:59 PM PDT by demsux
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To: dread78645
Yep dread, sorry, meant for all, however I do value your input more than some other posters
965 posted on 08/14/2002 10:41:45 PM PDT by demsux
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To: demsux
Someone REALLY MAD, wonder if Andy Kemal was REALLY MAD about DVD breaking up his marriage.

Or someone like keith stone...schmoozed barb all night long, took a viagra and then barb went up and "did" damon.

966 posted on 08/14/2002 10:44:53 PM PDT by demsux
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To: Rheo
Is "everyone" done for the night? I like talking to myself, I just hate typing it out.
967 posted on 08/14/2002 10:46:58 PM PDT by demsux
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To: Rheo
g'nite
968 posted on 08/14/2002 10:54:20 PM PDT by demsux
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To: Jaded
BUT if you can hook me up with some black pumps that sparkle like that, you gotta deal.

I'll call Tim Curry. He owes me one. Done deal.

969 posted on 08/14/2002 10:54:27 PM PDT by dread78645
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To: demsux
Goodnight demsux....talk to ya tomorrow.
970 posted on 08/14/2002 11:15:32 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: Rheo
Homeward Bound, isn't it?

That would be the one.

971 posted on 08/14/2002 11:39:12 PM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: demsux
That's a country I'd like to visit...my dad went there when I was a kid...his "slides" made it look like a cool place.

I've been there only one time. I quite liked it.

My opinion: You need to go slow there. You can't do it out of the standard tourist books. You need to walk around, get lost, and find your own tour.

They do have wonderful toilets. The best I've ever seen.

But it isn't any of that, nor any of all the flowers or the semi-legal marijuana or the red light district or any of the other things you read about. That's just the surface.

The Dutch are remarkable people. They carry around a lot of guilt about their failure to oppose Hitler during WWII. I could state that more intensely, but it's probably better that I do not.

If you do go there, you must practice your "drechts". In one way or an another, everything there is a either a drecht or a gracht. The canals certainly are, and so is everything else.

They will not want to hear you trying to make make those sounds, but you will need to do it anyway. It's a primal urge. It comes up from the throat.

I am lucky enough to know of a little town toward the south that is called Dordrecht. It's very old, and it has its own canals. I think I know someone there who would be willing to let me a room for a month or two. Take the dog, get a used bicycle...

You'd need to see it.

972 posted on 08/15/2002 12:19:10 AM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: CAPPSMADNESS
But there would be something under the body had she indeed been dumped at the site after death. During Putrification, the body fluids mass in the lowest portions of the body, as this state progresses - these same body fluids eat their way through the tissues onto the ground beneath the body, leaving alomst a brown/black oil subtance beneath the body. It would have been detected by the forensics specialists.

Yes, I agree, there should have been such. We called them "body slicks" but now I've learned in this trial that the correct term is "body silhouette".

Two forensic witnesses testified that there was none in this case: the ground was dry beneath the body. I think (but I'm not positive) that those two witnesses were the ME and Faulkner (the first forensic entomologist who testified). Both went to the site where the body was recovered.

Really strange. I don't recall what the explanation(s) for this was/were, but seem to remember something about the dry Santa Ana winds may have pulled any moisture into the air -- I have no experience with such an odd occurence. I think it's weird.

The ME testified there were no signs the body had been moved. I suppose if it had been moved after rigor mortis was set, and left in appoximately the same position in the new location, there would be no indication of it having been moved. (Any slight inconsistencies could be put down to animals pulling the body.)

The ME testified the body was in good enough shape to determine there were no bruises, so I presume it was also in good enough shape to determine via livor mortis that it had not been moved. If so, that sure whacks Dusek's theory that DW had the body rolling around in the storage compartment of his RV.

Also, Dusek's theory that the body mummified in the storage compartment sends me batty. You don't get mummification in an enclosed space like that!

Anyway, according the ME's testimony (and other forensic specialists, one being Haskell, I think), the face, neck and extremities were mummified (pretty typical), but the interior of the thorax and abdomen were not (also pretty typical).

I don't get why there was no "body silhouette" at all. Mighty strange. Unless, of course the body was moved after leakage of the fluids formed in the first stages of putrefaction. Or the body had been frozen soon after death (killing off the endogenous bacteria which account for much of the process of putrefaction, particularly in the abdominal area). Both possibilities seem really "out there" though.

One thing which struck me as REALLY odd: there was testimony (from LE I believe) that there were drag marks through the dry leaves, indicating the body had been dragged into position from the north. Well, if there was so much Santa Ana wind, why were the leaves still arranged so as to indicate the body had been dragged there? After either a month (according to Dusek) or after about two weeks (according to the forensic entomologists)? Hello?

It is my understanding that this drag mark is different from the small trail which was some feet from the body, which had some traces of the "brown/black oily substance" you described: that trail was determined to be too small to have been the body being dragged, and believed to be from an animal carrying away some entrails. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, and it's all the same drag mark with different interpretations by different witnesses! Well, back to bed for me.

973 posted on 08/15/2002 12:55:23 AM PDT by wonders
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To: Krodg
LOL Krodg, No silly.. the quote was funny in general...that's it...
974 posted on 08/15/2002 2:43:53 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Jaded
"The rape video was anime/hentai."

Need link and quote from judge for verification
975 posted on 08/15/2002 2:49:54 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: wonders
This is a case that almost demands dragging a few dead hogs out to nearby sites next January and seeing what happens, bug and decay wise.
976 posted on 08/15/2002 3:31:37 AM PDT by bvw
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To: carenot
They=John Kobelt and Ken Champeau, the co-hosts of the "John & Ken Show" on LA's KFI AM 640 during afternoon drive time.

AKA; "idiot talk show hosts from LA".
977 posted on 08/15/2002 6:02:47 AM PDT by L,TOWM
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To: wonders
Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense. Dusek doesn't want the jurors to think that much.
978 posted on 08/15/2002 6:47:59 AM PDT by Jaded
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
You know where they are.
979 posted on 08/15/2002 6:48:23 AM PDT by Jaded
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To: demsux
You are an outstanding HTML instructor.

Jack of all trades, master of none. That's me.

980 posted on 08/15/2002 6:53:16 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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