Elizabeth Smart case, August 13, 2002

[IamHD]

If you would like me to ping you, please let me know. :)

[lakey]

You are a good mother.

[lakey]

Wait a minute, JG. How many times have you refused to accept "published" information? Whenever it suits your "theories," that's how many. And don't tell me to go back & look them up. Do it yourself.

[Jolly Green]

There is one fact only..Elizabeth Smart is absent from the family home.

There are lots of facts in this case provided by the police/FBI and media sources (for example, Moul interview on MSNBC). Unfortunately, they all point to Ricci, who coincidentally is the police identified prime suspect in the case. Just because you don't like it or agree with it, doesn't mean the facts don't exist. Reality bites.

[cookiedough]

Smart Case, August 9, 2002



Posted by cookiedough to All
On General Interest Aug 9 9:40 PM #170 of 182

On Capitol Grilling, found reference to this article, which says the abductor was masked. Doesn't make
it true, of course, but could provide reason for no sketch:

http://peligro.com/ElizabethSmart.htm

[cookiedough]

Smart Case, August 9, 2002



Posted by cookiedough to All
On General Interest Aug 9 9:40 PM #170 of 182

On Capitol Grilling, found reference to this article, which says the abductor was masked. Doesn't make
it true, of course, but could provide reason for no sketch:

http://peligro.com/ElizabethSmart.htm

[cookiedough]

Sorry for the double posting.

[Iwo Jima]

I will wait to respond until anyone states that any of your ridiculous statements are worthy of response. Don't hold your breathe. You are totally discredited on this thread. Trust me, you do not want there to be a referendum on the issue of "Is Jolly Green worth even responding to or not?"

[IamHD]

You're kind. A mom's gotta do what a mom's gotta do, right? And, I'm sure that you are too, if you have children. Not to mention, a great beekeeper! :) My eldest daughter is now an attorney, and she'll be a good one, too. She just framed her first $1 bill for her first case. :)

[IamHD]

You may have to...do you really want to see somebody turn blue? :0)

[lakey]

You bet moms do what they have to do, even when their sons are 6 ft. 5 in. & into weight-lifting.

[IamHD]

Don't hold your breathe.

My post above, pertains to this.

[lakey]

You really know how to post! It ain't what you say as much as how you say it.

[Jolly Green]

rom day one they basically begged for the public's "help,"...but with only a generic description of the abductor, what were we the public supposed to be looking for?

You and many others have totally mised the boat on this point. The police have encouraged and assisted in the search for the girl - an area where the public could me most helpful. The description of ES and her pictures have been made available nationwide. The police have never expected the public to find the perp. That is their job AND they know that they had a very weak description of the perp.

The police have also requested the public's help in several other key instances i.e. identifying possible locations where the Jeep may have been during several key dates, finding Edmunds, searching specific target areas in Carbon and Emory counties. Each of these areas the police felt the public could be helpful.

Just because you do not understand what the SLCPD/FBI are doing, doesn't mean they don't know what they are doing.

[sandude]

Yes, they can, but in the meantime, Elizabeth is still missing because of mistakes.

The perps had at least a two hour head start on LE. That gave them plenty of time to secure Elizabeth away before the alarm was sounded. If MK had waited a few minutes more before making her first attempt to wake her parents then maybe she wouldn't have seen the abductor the second time and the authorities would have gotten on the case sooner. The bottom line though is that it was the middle of the night, without a vehicle description to go on LE would have been severly hampered. Elizabeth should never have gone quietly and that is the lesson that we can all teach our children. My point in all of this is that even if LE had done everything perfectly, Elizabeth would probably still be gone.

[Iwo Jima]

Both are equally important, don't you think? Although I admit that I am very prone to helping people out if I think that they have been inarticulate in expressing a worthy sentiment.

[Jolly Green]

I agree with the media frenzy, but the tightness of LE is debateable.

That isn't debatable. LE has clamped a lid on this investigation following leaks early in the case.

[IamHD]

Thanks, cookiedough! I knew that I had read it some place! I wonder why the Washington Post is the ONLY one that wrote this? I guess that it must not have been credible!

Do you know where the source came from about all of the Jeep's windows being rolled down when it was returned to the mechanic's shop? I only read about that of FR.

[Utah Girl]

I've read that 70% of SLC is Mormon. Bias. The church indirectly pays their paychecks, so of course there would be an influence.

Wrong. SLC is 45% Mormon. The state of Utah is about 67% Mormon. One can't check religious affiliation in jobs, but I have heard on good authority that the SLPD mirrors the population of SLC.

[IamHD]

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[IamHD]

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