Posted on 08/12/2002 9:08:54 PM PDT by IamHD
If you would like me to ping you, please let me know. :)
I hope you don't want me to give you a run-down on past performances.
No need to mention the problems in the FBI. They do sometimes get it right though.
The article is from the Washington Post on June 7th. I don't have the original link, but it appears at http://peligro.com/ElizabethSmart.htm
This was stated my Moul in the Ashley Banfield interview on MSNBC.
No doubt that this goes on and it is unfortunate. I like to believe that this is the exception rather than the rule. We always hear about the cases where serious gaffs are made. There are many more cases that are handled with professionalism that get no media coverage.
I accept most published reports quoting the authorities or witness interviews such as Moul from credible sources. You have never seen me refute such a source. Sounds like you have a selective memory.
Whatever gave you this idea? When I was a very small boy there was a real law and order police chief in Salt Lake who was also a well known Mormon. The press hounded him out of office. Anyone in Salt Lake City that ran on a platform that openly supported the Mormon church would have absolutely no chance of getting elected. I'm not trying to suggest that the church has no influence. Any large religious organization would, no matter where you were in America. From what I can see their influence is mainly in the area's of keeping pornography and such influences out of the city. I might add that they are not completely successful in this either.
Just the kind of response we could expect from a sophomoric twit like yourself. I'm sure the you and other logic-challenged posters could be entertained for several days by such a question. You might be surprised by my defenders. This would not be the first time the logic-challenged on this these threads ganged up on Jolly Green.
While Jolly can be quite rude, he does have an intense interest in the known facts and the use of good logic and reasoning. I'm afraid most of you simply ignore his posts because of his bad behaviour. While I object to his rudeness, I embrace his desire to get to the facts in this matter.
Yes, I agree with this!
The bottom line though is that it was the middle of the night, without a vehicle description to go on LE would have been severly hampered.
Yes, LE said that they left "on foot."
Elizabeth should never have gone quietly and that is the lesson that we can all teach our children. You are absolutely correct!
My point in all of this is that even if LE had done everything perfectly, Elizabeth would probably still be gone.
I agree, and at least you are NOT rude and listen to what others have to say! :) But, I still think that LE messed up, maybe thinking that they were doing the right thing...but, they messed up and they did mislead the public. Not to mention neighbors and well-meaning friends destroying possible evidence! I'm not going to harp on this anymore, but didn't anybody learn anything from the Jon-Benet Ramsey case?
(My ! are not meant to be rude...just my frustration, and are not meant to be taken personally.)
I agree that mistakes were made and LE did mislead the public, although I don't think they purposely did this. I'm sure they would handle it differently if they had it to do over again. As far as having their neighbors come into the house, that was a potential tragic mistake as far as LE building a case. I look at a family that is very busy raising active teenage children and I suspect they paid very little attention to the Jon-Bonet Ramsey case. They were hopelessly naive and have received a very painful lesson about the cold cruel world.
I fall into the "rude" category in the eyes of many on these threads from the Logic-Free zone. Things were real nasty around here about a month ago. Some entire threads were pulled for outrageous bashing of the Church and the Smarts. Other threads had posts yanked and some posters were banned. Things are relatively civil around here now by comparison, though several of the key chruch/Smart bashers are still around. I make no apologies for taking them to task and trying to get them to provide credible sources/evidence for their outlandish theories, which very few have even attempted.
What they did wrong was to ignore ordinary procedure, the composite (believe it or not, Boylan made a sensational drawing of the Unibomber - mask included). They should have told Tom Smart to shut his trap on the subject of a composite!
But, then, when we turn to all the calling of family, friends, neighbors - before they got around to thinking about 9-11, this is where my suspicions are aroused.
Lois' revelation weeks later, that MK had recognized the voice, is an indication that Lois wants the kidnapper to know that they know who he is.
I'm sure you will be only too happy to tell us how you, Boylan or anyone else could construct a composite out of thin air. The following quote is included in the link below:
The younger girl has not been able to clearly describe the man, telling police only that the kidnapper carried a small black gun and was about 5-foot-8, white, with dark hair, and dressed in a tan denim-type jacket and white baseball cap.
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