Defense Feldman: Danielle Van Dam Knew Her Abductor: Dusek, Still Talking...Westerfield Waiting

Union Trib ^ | August 8, 2002 | Steve Perez/Greg Magnus

[pinz-n-needlez]

If Brenda and Damon got 'spoken to' after the hearing, Dusek would have told them what the judge said.

[YaYa123]

I think I heard that only the lawyers and the judge were present at the closed session, Brenda wasn't there. If it's ok I'll answer someone else's questions onto this reply. I copy/pasted them in an email to myself so I wouldn't forget, then I forgot who asked.

The questions were:

What times in and out of the house.
How he killed her
When
Where
How he dumped the body and when
Why is there no evidence of him in the house
Why is there no more or direct evidence of her in the rv if she was raped and murdered.

1. I think he made a quick in & out snatch, after the Van Dam's were asleep for the night.

2. I think he suffocated Danielle with a pillow.

3. I think he killed her, after he got unstuck from the sand. (I believe the tow guy who thought he heard a voice inside the rv.)

4. I think Danielle died in the rv, but she may have been near death when she was taken there.

5. I think he dumped the body on the last leg of his week-end roadtrip.

6. I think there's no evidence of him in the VD house, because it was a quick entry/exit, and because he's too smart to have left fingerprints.

7. I think there's no more evidence of Danielle being in the rv because Westerfield got rid of it, along with the body on his way back home. And everything else, he laundered.

btw, I thought it was overkill for Dusek to offer the theory that Westerfield hid out in Danielle's room for any length of time.

[shezza]

Look at all the individual things that he did that were stupid, that were guilty. All those factors have been established by his own words and by all the people that saw him. We have his lies. Lies are a circumstance of guilt. Destroying evidence is a circumstance of guilt. Going to drycleaners, taking jacket...with her blood...

The hair, the prints, the fibers, the carpet, the variety of locations. How many places did we find them?

[spectre]

"There is no explanation, except that he did it".

You're right, Dusek, there IS no explanation...so he didn't do it.

sw

[Spunky]

So, is DUSEK the one that is leaking info?

The source for the judge and the 2 lawyers being the only ones in the judges chambers was Nancy Grace. So who knows if it was accurate or not.

[UCANSEE2]

But common sense tells you that you have to be cheating if you win dozens of hands.

THUS explaining the HIGH CONVICTION RATE in San Diego by the DA's office (includes LE,Prosecutor,Judges) while in the meantime children are being kidnapped off the street and raped/killed. While a MAJOR INTERNATIONAL CHILD PORN/RAPE ring is being run out of SD/Poway, and the SD LE's have to be told about it by a group from SWEDEN.

THANK YOU VRWC_minion, you are SO RIGHT. DUSEK did make a point with the card game.

IT is obvious that the reason the SD DA has such a high rate of conviction is from CHEATING !!!!!!!!!

[oremus]

Is this the thread for today, 8/8? I didn't get pinged on anything else. Thx.

[UCANSEE2]

The OJ disruptors can't answer questions.

[shezza]

We cannot find one reasonable explanation that takes into account all of those established facts. We are missing our best witness here to testify. But if someone could create a miracle, just a little one, and bring Danielle back to life just for a moment, (shezza: bringing her back to life is just a "little" miracle??) we would ask her, "Danielle, tell us, who did this to you?" She would answer, "I already told you. I told you with my hair, with the orange fiber,with the blue fibers that were on my naked body, with my fingerprints, and I told you with my blood. Please listen."

[shezza]

RESTS. Mudd going into jury instructions.

[VRWC_minion]

The Federal gov't has a very high conviction rate. The reason is they don't prosecute unless they have overwhelming evidence to get a conviction.

[Steve0113]

They're always telling people to read the threads, as if their ramblings are evidence.

The threads also contain up-to-the-minute transcriptions of the courtroom proceedings, in addition to other observations and commentary. Guess you didn't notice.

[Jaded]

Yeah!!!! He shut up finally!!!

[Alamo-Girl]

You and I have been around Free Republic for a long time and I know you to be intelligent, honest and sincere in all your posts over the years.

Sadly, this is a very emotional subject. I posted something yesterday which raised strengths on both sides and I also received several replies that DW cannot possibly be guilty. I don't have an opinion as to guilt or innocent and thus, nothing to argue.

I do however believe that the people who sit on the jury may see things from a different point of view, perhaps in the most simple form - unspoken and in disregard of the jury instruction. For instance, because the responsibility is theirs alone, I wonder if the jurors will consider what error in their own judgement they can live with:

1. That an innocent man was convicted.
2. That a guilty man was let go.

If the subject were anything other than violence to a child, I believe the jury would see #1 as the worst possible outcome. In this case however, the jury might not be able to live with #2.

The judge is not giving the jury any way to "split the baby," so somebody is ultimately going to leave the courtroom crushed.

I pray for God's will in this - and I'm sure that will be the result.

[shezza]

Jury can't decide case by the flip of a coin or any other chance decision! (duh)

[bvw]

Dusek: But common sense tells you that you have to be cheating if you win dozens of hands.

UCANSEE2: THUS explaining the HIGH CONVICTION RATE in San Diego by the DA's office

Man oh man! That's what DUSEK admiited. In San Diego, by his own logic, the DA's Office cheats!

[nycgal]

I agree, something is very wrong.

The reason the pjs have been brought up is because on the previous thread I thought that if Danielle had been wearing her pjs (those that were identical to those of her sleep over pal) then fibers from them should have been found on DW's clothing, home, or vehicles. I don't believe fibers matching the pjs were found anywhere in DW's environment.

[UCANSEE2]

. Something is very wrong here.

YEP. Just what I and others have said from the very beginning.

BRENDA, LIAR, DAMON, LIAR, proven fact. Sworn on the BIBLE LIARS.

While their daughter was missing, continued to lie for 17 hours. WHY?

yep, Something is very wrong here.

It is likely a man that is innocent who already has spent time in jail, may spend more time in jail.

[spectre]

Looks like this is it. It's going to the Jury now.

Wonder if they can deliberate on weekends too?

sw

[shezza]

they don't prosecute unless they have overwhelming evidence to get a conviction.

Riiiiiiight.