Evidence On Insects Likely To Continue: (Westerfield Trial "Creeps" Along At An Ant's Pace!)

Union Trib ^ | June 29, 2002 | Alex Roth

[Freedom2specul8]

Conway, AR (AP) - A man has been charged in the abduction and rape of an 8-year-old girl. Police say the girl was abducted from her home and sexually assaulted outside the house yesterday morning as her parents and sister slept inside.

[the Deejay]

Not the "same" fibers, but "similar", & I'll bet you have fibers in your house that are "similar" to those found on Danielle.

No, she did not take a bath or shower that night. Not according to Damon. No one had a bath, except Brenda who took a shower prior to going out with the girls.

[Karson]

Bless you and Amen. :)

[Freedom2specul8]

let's try this a different way.

[VRWC_minion]

I will grant you that its possible they came from similar sources. So we must conclude that not only did goldilocks bleed and shed, we must also beleive that the big bad wolf just happened to have two fabrics that had fibers that matched the same two fibers (blue and orange) that were on Danielle's body.

Wow.

[VRWC_minion]

No, she did not take a bath or shower that night

Did she have a bath since the last time the RV was in the neighborhood or since the time she sold cookies to Westerfield ?

[Spunky]

I.E. by specifying that forensic entomology could not be 'precise'........

This morning one of the lawyers not sure which one, asked the Judge to instruct the jury NOT TO WATCH "BODY FARM" ON THE A&E CHANNEL.

I have watched "Body Farm" It is in I think Tennesee and they put cadavers in all kinds of inviroments and conditions and watch how and when bugs invade the body.

When I saw it I was so facinated by what they could determine from the bugs.

Medical examinors call in entomologists because they are able with their science to set the time of death closer to the actual time.

P.S. They were also talking about Samatha's mother being on Larry King and blaming the jury for not having put Avila away before and what effect this might have had on the jury if they saw it.

[Jrabbit]

Or that somebody that had contact with DW and Danielle that night had blue and orange fibers on them....like maybe Brenda or the other swingers?

[hoosiermama]

Anyone have the statistics on how few/many types of automobile carpet, floor mats etc. are on the market????? Are all GM or Ford etc carpets the same or similar?

[cyncooper]

No, he didn't lie. As I explained, the witness is only allowed to say "similar", but then they go on to lists all the ways the fibers are similar to each other.

The lawyers are then able to represent it as a match to the jury.

BTW, the hair under Danielle's arm was identified as similar to her own, I believe.

Also, there were samples taken from search dogs and investigative personnel, so it is incorrect to say these things weren't done to rule them out as contributing factors.

[VRWC_minion]

5 Q. OKAY. LET ME ASK THEM THEN.6 IN TERMS OF THE MOTOR HOME, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH7 WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS BLOOD WHICH HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS8 HAVING COME FROM DANIELLE VAN DAM IN THAT MOTOR HOME?

9 MR. FELDMAN: ASKED AND ANSWERED.

Interesting that Feldman doesn't object to the characherization of blood, just the duplicate nature of the question.

[Krodg]

Wow, what else can be said. I agree that the judge has been biased from the start.

[clearvision]

Or LE at the different places wore the same thing (a couple of officers where in the passenger seat and back seat of the SUV I believe). Or that DW danced with someone who also had contact with Danielle earlier (and then he drove home in his SUV, slept in his bed). Without a common source identified these fibers are questionable.

[hoosiermama]

If DW car was left unlocked in the parking lot at Dad's. someone with orage fiber could have gotten into car there. Didn't the pizza party group leave for a while? Maybe they had a little pizza in DW's car???

[cyncooper]

If DW car was left unlocked in the parking lot at Dad's. someone with orage fiber could have gotten into car there.

There were also the same orange fibers in his bed, all laundry in laundry room and some in the MH (plus around Danielle's necklace). How would those be explained by the above?

[Politicalmom]

Wow!! That is one I hadn't heard. That is excellent thinking!!

[VRWC_minion]

Or LE at the different places wore the same thing (a couple of officers where in the passenger seat and back seat of the SUV I believe). Or that DW danced with someone who also had contact with Danielle earlier (and then he drove home in his SUV, slept in his bed). Without a common source identified these fibers are questionable.

YesI understand. These fibers are like super fibers. Westefield would be able to spread both the orange and blue fibers in several places throughout his RV and on the back seat of his SUV (while driving home drunk ?) after dirty dancing (and didn't he say he took a shower and changed sat morning before going to RV) while at the same time one of the dirty dancers went to Westerfield's stripped her and caused the same fibers to rub and stick to her bare skin.

Okie dokie. Sounds possible but anything but reasonable to me.

[VRWC_minion]

one of the dirty dancers went to Westerfield's,Van Dams stripped her and caused the same fibers to rub and stick to her bare skin.

[hoosiermama]

Static electricity. He carried them with him. UNknowingly spread them where ever he went. If they were from BvD some could have com from dancing..and/or her sitting in his car... And the one in Danielle's necklace from when she hugged her daughter. Common source .....BvD in all innocent actions.

[VRWC_minion]

FWIW, everytime some of these folks tell me I don't know what the case is all about and cause me to get more facts, I keep getting facts that make it even harder to deny the already convincing evidence.

I didn't realize their were two totally different fibers that matched Danielle to so many places belonging to Westerfield. I understand that its possible to explain each one individually but when it adds up to so many connections its mind blowing.