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Evidence On Insects Likely To Continue: (Westerfield Trial "Creeps" Along At An Ant's Pace!)
Union Trib ^ | June 29, 2002 | Alex Roth

Posted on 07/28/2002 8:56:21 PM PDT by FresnoDA

Evidence on insects likely to continue

Trial winding down; closing statements may be this week

By Alex Roth
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

July 28, 2002

Expect to hear more evidence about insects as the David Westerfield trial enters what could be the final week of testimony before jury deliberations.

On Tuesday, prosecutors are scheduled to call Dr. M. Lee Goff of the University of Hawaii as their final rebuttal witness in a trial that has lasted 23 court days. Goff is a forensic entomologist and the author of "A Fly for the Prosecution: How Insect Evidence Helps Solve Crimes."

Whether Goff will be the final insect expert in the case – jurors have already heard from three witnesses with expert opinions about the behavior of insects on human remains – is unclear. Westerfield's lawyers have said they will take at least a day to present evidence to rebut the prosecution's rebuttal.

The trial will not be in session tomorrow because the lawyers and judge are scheduled to hash out the legal instructions that will be read to the jury after the close of testimony. The instructions guide jurors on the law to be applied in the case.

Given the time estimates of the lawyers, it seems likely that closing statements won't come until Thursday, or the following Monday at the earliest. So far there haven't been any Friday sessions in which the jury was present to hear testimony. The judge said the jury will deliberate Mondays through Fridays.

As the case winds down, the battle of the insect experts has emerged as perhaps the final arena in the murder trial. Westerfield's lawyers say the insects found on 7-year-old Danielle van Dam's body prove that it couldn't have been dumped until after Westerfield was under 24-hour police surveillance.

Danielle was reported missing from her home Feb. 2, and her body was found by volunteer searchers Feb. 27 in a remote area off Dehesa Road near the Singing Hills Golf Course in El Cajon.

The defense called two entomologists who testified about blowflies on the girl's body. Westerfield's lawyers say the experts' testimony proves that the remains couldn't have been dumped until mid-February. Westerfield was under constant police surveillance beginning Feb. 5.Photo

The prosecution countered with a forensic anthropologist who said the body's extreme mummification might help explain why blowflies weren't able to access the remains immediately.

Westerfield, a self-employed design engineer who lived two doors from the van Dams in Sabre Springs, is accused of kidnapping and killing Danielle. He is also accused of possession of child pornography, which the prosecution claims shows that he had a sexual interest in girls.

Prosecutors said the pornography – some of it depicting violent sexual attacks against young girls – was found on Westerfield's computers and on computer disks stored on his office bookshelf.

In a trial of numerous shifts in momentum, legal experts say prosecutors scored a significant blow last week by calling Westerfield's son as a witness. Neal Westerfield, now 19, testified that the computer child pornography in the house was his father's, not his.

Earlier in the trial, the defense presented a computer expert who testified that Neal Westerfield might have been the person who downloaded some of the pornography.

"This is a young man who clearly cares about his dad and has a good relationship with him, so he has no reason to say anything bad," said Peter Liss, a Vista criminal defense lawyer. "He was just truthful."

In this respect, the defense's strategy of trying to blame the son for the child pornography in the house appears to have backfired. Criminal defense lawyer Robert Grimes said the jury is likely to view Neal Westerfield as "basically a nice young college kid" who testified honestly.

Westerfield's lawyers chose not to cross-examine his son. They will indicate this week whether they will call any witnesses to try to refute his testimony.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: danielle; daniellevandam; kidnappig; kidnapping; molestation; pedophile; vandam; westerfield
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To: VRWC_minion
I didn't save the date (june 24th might be right) when I saved that clip sometime ago. I think that's all there is.
541 posted on 07/29/2002 7:56:51 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: gigi
Click on Westerfield Trial and it has transcripts divided into defense and prosecution witnesses.

Thank you! I have been reading the transcripts but never noticed the link at the top for the witness lists (DUH!). You have made my life much easier.

542 posted on 07/29/2002 7:57:38 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: John Jamieson
Yep. I'll bet ALL OF US have fibers "similar" to the very same ones they found on/around Danielle.

Remember they were only "similar" not a "match".
543 posted on 07/29/2002 7:58:34 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: Jaded

Don't Fear The Reaper - Blue Oyster Cult

Westie Fears the Reaper - FDA

Judge-ment time has come
Sum-mer's come and gone
Westie sure fears the reaper
Just like the wind, the sun or the rain 
He can't be like they are
Come on Barbie 
He fears the reaper
Barbie take Keith's hand
Westie fears the reaper
Go upstairs Barb we'll fly...
Westie fears the reaper
The Demon is your man...

Hall-oween is gone
Costume party done
Keith and Barb will swing some day...
Together in Sabre Swings..
Keith and Barb will swing some day...
40,000 swingers everyday
Keith and Barb will swing some day...
40,000 swingers everyday
Redefine morality
Another 40,000 coming everyday
We can be like they are
Come on Barbie 
Westie fears the reaper
Baby take my hand
Westie fears the reaper
We'll be able to swing
Westie fears the reaper
The Demon is the man...

Love of two is one
But the baby now is gone
Came the last night of sadness
And it was clear she couldn't go on
Then the door was open and the wind appeared
The alarm light blinked then she disappeared
The curtains flew then evil appeared
Someone took the babe...
Come on Brenda
Someone took the babe...
And she ran downstairs
Then she started to cry
They called the police and said good bye
No more lullabies
She had taken his hand
She had left without fear
Come on confess you Demon
He don't fear the reaper


544 posted on 07/29/2002 7:59:02 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: John Jamieson
I've always wondered how you open a sterile sheet, spread it out, move a body to it WITHOUT getting any fibers from clothes you happen to be wearing on the sheet. Now if you happen to wear a uniform or standard pants/shirt/jacket and then you, or someone also wearing similar clothes as you, goes through an RV, house and SUV how do you keep cross-contamination from happening. I would think LE would normally have to take samples of clothing worn at crime scenes, especially if no other common source is identified.
545 posted on 07/29/2002 8:00:29 PM PDT by clearvision
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To: John Jamieson
"We'll all be disapointed if our favorate points are missed! "

I agree JJ!

546 posted on 07/29/2002 8:01:14 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: VRWC_minion
The testimony on the fiber said they were similar but not necessarily from the same source. PLEASE read the court transcript. In other words. You have blue carpet in your car, I have blue carpet...same company...same brand Not same source.
547 posted on 07/29/2002 8:01:26 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: the Deejay
Remember they were only "similar" not a "match".

Never, in the history of trial testimony, is fiber evidence testified to as a "match" by the witness. Lawyers can and will use the term, though.

Wait and see what Dusek says in closing. He used the term "match" in his opening, I believe.

548 posted on 07/29/2002 8:01:28 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: John Jamieson
I would think that the LE questioned Neal, Lisa, the ex girlfriends and kids who lived with DW and anyone else familiar with the Westerfield home about sources for these fibers, especially the orange ones. So far, nothing has been shown to match. What fibers were in the VD home? To me, the fibers leave more questions than answers. I wish that Feldman had gone more into the "blood " evidence questions that you have brought up.
549 posted on 07/29/2002 8:03:00 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: John Jamieson

Snip...Snip...Snip...Snip....

Edward Scissorhands #8

550 posted on 07/29/2002 8:03:05 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: clearvision
"I would think LE would normally have to take samples of clothing worn at crime scenes, especially if no other common source is identified."


I've seen this done in other trials, as well as checking any unknown hairs, etc., on the body. If only to explain/eliminate those "unknowns". Like in this case, they didn't bother to eliminate or find a source for the dark short hair under her arm, except to check it against DW's. They SHOULD have checked for another source, but they didn't.

551 posted on 07/29/2002 8:05:04 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: spectre
1 DOES REVIEWING THE DOCUMENT REFRESH YOUR 2 RECOLLECTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU TOLD BILL 3 LIBBY THAT HE OUGHT TO COME TO DAD'S BAR THAT 4 EVENING BECAUSE HIS WIFE DOLLY WAS OUT OF TOWN? 5 A NO, IT DOESN'T.

This is from Feldman's questioning of BVD at the PH...this is the THIRD time that Feldman tries to "refresh" BVD's memory on the subject of inviting Bill Libby to Dad's "because his wife is out of town".

It appears that Feldman is using Bill Libby's police interview to impeach BVD.

Something happening there...maybe BVD figures that DVD prefers Barb, so she needs to find a "date" for the night.

Maybe Barb has to find the date for BVD, so that Barb can have DVD...

I have lots of questions about Bill Libby...he and damon planning to go snowboarding at Libby's cabin, BVD inviting Libby to Dad's "because his wife is out of town", Libby heading up the donation campaign, LIBBY NOT BEING CALLED BY THE PROSECUTION (to tell us about the cancelled trip, the phone call, etc.)

552 posted on 07/29/2002 8:06:59 PM PDT by demsux
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To: cyncooper
If Dusek used "match" and not "similar", then he lied to the jury. Because that's not what the forensics testified to. They all said, "similar", to the fibers.
553 posted on 07/29/2002 8:07:56 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: VRWC_minion
To: VRWC_minion

To: Jrabbit These were the clothes found by Le on her bedroom floor. I think we can assume they were recently worn That isn't a fair assumption in my house, that is all I am saying. 233 posted on 7/29/02 2:21 PM Pacific by VRWC_minion

I mean no disrespect to your wife, however, you are saying that in 'your' home, no one can assume that the clothes on the bedroom floor were worn. So, should I therefore assume that your wife throws all the clean laundry on the floor?


284 posted on 7/29/02 3:23 PM Pacific by Krodg

I don't see where I have called anyone any name. I have thought about calling you many things, but then I prayed. I prayed for our Lord to forgive my evil thoughts and soften my tongue and I have prayed for you to learn humility. He never fails.

554 posted on 07/29/2002 8:08:25 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: VRWC_minion
8 Q. DID YOU, IN FACT, FIND IN YOUR RE-EXAMINATION OF9 THE ITEM NO. 35, TAPE LIFTS FROM THE INTERIOR OF THE S. U. V.10 ANY OTHER ORANGE FIBERS?

11 A. YES, I DID.

12 Q. FROM WHAT LOCATION?

13 A. I FOUND AN ORANGE FIBER IN THE FRONT PASSENGER14 SEAT. I FOUND SEVERAL FIBERS ON THE REAR SEAT, AND I FOUND15 ORANGE FIBERS ON THE REAR PASSENGER ARMREST.

555 posted on 07/29/2002 8:08:43 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion
5 Q. WITH WHAT RESULTS?

6 A. I FOUND THAT THE FIBERS REMOVED FROM THE BLUE TOWEL7 TAKEN OUT OF THE S. U. V. WERE SIMILAR IN ALL THE WAYS THAT I8 TESTED TO THE FIBERS TAKEN FROM THE PILLOWCASE ON THE9 DEFENDANT'S BEDDING AND TO THE FIBER TAKEN FROM THE NECKLACE10 FROM AROUND THE VICTIM'S NECK.

556 posted on 07/29/2002 8:09:47 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: John Jamieson
And those fibers, per the testimony, "MAY , OR, MAY NOT" have come from some never identified, common source. Totally useless info.

But Danielle has same fibers on her body ? What a coincidence.

Did she take a bath that night anyone ?

557 posted on 07/29/2002 8:11:25 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: FresnoDA

558 posted on 07/29/2002 8:13:03 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: cyncooper
It does help narrow it down to the day, but you still have to figure out if it was morning or afternoon.
559 posted on 07/29/2002 8:13:38 PM PDT by gigi
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To: VRWC_minion
Similar fibers, not same fibers.
560 posted on 07/29/2002 8:13:59 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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