[FormerLurker]

That would be the best team of hoaxers that is KNOWN. Very important detail there. Again everything you're building from is an assumption of human mediocrity.

Again you're grasping for straws.

1. IF there were a team of hoaxers that COULD create something that IS geometrically precise and symmetrical, don't you think they would have displayed their work and proved it by now? You know how these hoaxsters just LOVE to brag about their accomplishments. And yes, HUMAN NATURE dictates that would be the case.
2. You assume that because there are some people who claim to be able to fake crop circles, ALL crop circles must be the work of such people, even though not one of them have been able to duplicate the characteristics of REAL formations.
3. To make such claims without any proof or evidence is simply a leap of faith. It definitely does not qualify as science, nor does it follow reason or logic.
4. Setting aside the geometric qualities of the formations, there is also the matter of the 90 bends in the crops without damage, and the weaving of the crops at the floor of the formation. As much as you'd love to find a human explanation for that, I seriously doubt you can.

[balrog666]

IF there were a team of hoaxers that COULD create something that IS geometrically precise and symmetrical, don't you think they would have displayed their work and proved it by now? You know how these hoaxsters just LOVE to brag about their accomplishments. And yes, HUMAN NATURE dictates that would be the case.

Right. We all remember how those Nessie fakers rushed forward to announce their hoax after only 60 years.

[discostu]

Answer to questions:
1 - well tey ARE displaying they're work. The question should be "would they take credit"? And there's no generic answer to that question. Gang taggers do some pretty impressive stuff and the only "credit" they take is in the nickname signature they might or might not use. We have no way of knowing if the makers of any given crop circle would take credit unless or until somebody does.
2 - I assume that the simplest answer is the most likely. Becuase humans HAVE made crop circles and are continuing to make crop circles until you can show proof that a certain crop circle is truly "extra ordinary" I must assume an ordinary answer to the question of it's creation. That's called logic, it is my prison and I will not leave.
3 - I have proof, the proof is the numerous films of people actually making crop circles. Without a crop circle that has clear evidence of of something 100% beyond known human technology I must assume that the proven way of doing something is how it was done. Extra ordinary conclusions require extra ordinary evidence. Symmety is NOT extra ordinary, humans make perfectly symmetrical complex objects every day.
4 - The "weaving" is simple, things like that "weave" as you push them over, branches intertwine, no big deal happens when the wind knocks them over too. As for the magical "bending" I don't believe it. I've seen no irrefutable evidence that the stalks are bent in an abnormal way. Most of the close examinations I've seen it looks more like the stalks were nudged out of the earth (like the roots couldn't resist the lateral force applied on them) not unlike fallen trees (which I have a lot of to examine currently, we had a great storm last night) in miniature.

Show me some truly extra ordinary evidence and I'll open up to the possibility of an extra ordinary explanation. Try and tell me these things have to be made by aliens because humans are so stupid and I'll make fun of you.