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Thanks for proving my point. See how demonstrably little faith you have in the human race. The flawed one is the only one you'll accept as being made by humans, because humans are no good. You know we made the space shuttle, that's got more parts than ANY crop circle ever made and is symetrical. How about the Empire State Building? You know that went up in a year, is also more complex than any crop circle and is symetrical. You really should have a little more faith in human kind, we can do some pretty cool stuff when we feel like it.

Sorry bub but your faux utopianism doesn't fly with me. Surely you can see which crop formation is superior. HINT: It's not the one done by the "circlemakers" with their very nice website.

If only they could carve out crop formations that are as well done as their graphically engaging website.

Thanks for proving my point. See how demonstrably little faith you have in the human race. The flawed one is the only one you'll accept as being made by humans, because humans are no good.

You can't be serious. Are you saying that the formation formed by the hoaxsters is symmetrical and geometrically precise and correct? This only demonstrates that it was hoaxed, as NOT ONE TEAM OF HOAXSTERS HAVE EVER BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE THOSE CHARACTERISTICS.

Are you trying to say that this proves that humans are inferior to those who are forming the REAL circles? Who knows if they AREN'T in fact HUMAN, but from a different place or TIME?

You know we made the space shuttle, that's got more parts than ANY crop circle ever made and is symetrical. How about the Empire State Building?

They didn't make it with planks and ropes... as your circlemaker friends would probably claim. In fact, I'm surprised they haven't claimed that they HAVE built the Empire State building in that way..

You know that went up in a year, is also more complex than any crop circle and is symetrical. You really should have a little more faith in human kind, we can do some pretty cool stuff when we feel like it.

With cranes and other heavy equipment we can do marvels alright. If you can find me a crop circle formation that has been documented on film as being made by hoaxsters, and if it is symmetrical, geometrically aligned and correct, then maybe I'll concede that it can be done. But then again, there are certain other characteristics that need to be duplicated, such as the celluar changes, the crops being bent at 90 degrees but not broken, the weaving of the crops, etc..