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Oh yuck. Math.

But Math makes the World Go Round, amongst other things... :)

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To be honest, there is more than just a few places where certain symbols are missing, sqrt.gif being one of several. In all fairness to Dr. Knott and the University of Surrey, I've decided to repost the page with corrections..


The Golden section ratio: Phi

Contents of this Page

The line means there is a Things to do investigation at the end of the section.
(o) What is the Golden Ratio (or Phi)?
  (:) A simple definition of Phi
A bit of history...
  Links on Euclid and his "Elements"
Phi and the Egyptian Pyramids?
Other names for Phi
(o) Phi to 2000 decimal places
(o) Phi and the Fibonacci numbers
  The Ratio of neighbouring Fibonacci Numbers tends to Phi
Another definition of Phi
A formula for Phi using a continued fraction
(o) Phi is not a fraction
(o) Rational Approximations to Phi
(:) Why do the Fibonacci numbers occur in the convergents?
(o) Other ways to find Phi using your calculator
(:) Calculator Method 1: Invert and Add 1
(:) Calculator method 2: Add 1 and take the square-root
(o) Similar numbers

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What is the golden section (or Phi)?

We will call the Golden Ratio (or Golden number) after a greek letter,Phi () here, although some writers and mathematicians use another Greek letter, tau (). Also, we shall use phi (note the lower case p) for a closely related value.

A simple definition of Phi

There are just two numbers that remain the same when they are squared namely 0 and 1. Other numbers get bigger and some get smaller when we square them:
Squares that are bigger Squares that are smaller
22 is 4 1/2=0·5 and 0·52 is 0·25=1/4
32 is 9 1/5=0·2 and 0·22 is 0·04=1/25
102 is 100 1/10=0·1 and 0·12 is 0·01=1/100
One definition of Phi (the golden section number) is that
to square it you just add 1
or, in mathematics:
Phi2 = Phi + 1
In fact, there are two numbers with this property, one is Phi and another is closely related to it when we write out some of its decimal places.
Here is a mathematical derivation (or proof) of the two values. You can skip over this to the answers at the foot of this paragraph if you like.

Multiplying both sides by Phi gives a quadratic equation:

Phi2 = Phi + 1 or
Phi2 – Phi – 1 = 0

We can solve this quadratic equation to find two possible values for Phi as follows:

Use your calculator to see that the values of these two numbers are 1·6180339887... and –0·6180339887...

Did you notice that their decimal parts are identical?
We will name the first value Phi and the second – phi using the first letter to tell us if we want the bigger value (Phi) 1·618... or the smaller one (phi) 0·618... .

Note that Phi is just 1+phi. As a little practice at algebra, use the expressions above to show that phi times Phi is exactly 1. Here is a summary of what we have found already that we will find very useful in what follows:
Phi phi = 1, Phi - phi = 1, Phi + phi = sqrt5
Phi = 1.6180339.. phi = 0.6180339..
Phi = 1 + phi phi = Phi – 1
Phi = 1/phi phi = 1/Phi
Phi2 = Phi + 1 (-phi)2 = -phi + 1 or phi2 = 1 – phi
Phi = (sqrt5 + 1)/2 phi = (sqrt5 – 1)/2

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A bit of history...

Euclid, the Greek mathematician of about 300BC, wrote the Elements which is a collection of 13 books on Geometry (written in Greek originally). It was the most important mathematical work until this century, when Geometry began to take a lower place on school syllabuses, but it has had a major influence on mathematics.

It starts from basic definitions called axioms or "postulates" (self-evident starting points). An example is the fifth axiom that

there is only one line parallel to another line through a given point.
From these Euclid develops more results (called propositions) about geometry which he proves based purely on the axioms and previously proved propositions using logic alone. The propositions involve constructing geometric figures using a straight edge and compasses only so that we can only draw straight lines and circles.
    For instance, Book 1, Proposition 10 to find the exact centre of any line AB
  1. Put your compass point on one end of the line at point A.
  2. Open the compasses to the other end of the line, B, and draw the circle.
  3. Draw another circle in the same way with centre at the other end of the line.
  4. This gives two points where the two red circles cross and, if we join these points, we have a (green) straight line at 90 degrees to the original line which goes through its exact centre.

In Book 6, Proposition 30, Euclid shows how to divide a line in mean and extreme ratio which we would call "finding the golden section G point on the line".



                <-------- 1 --------->

                A            G       B

                       g        1–g               

     
Euclid used this phrase to mean the ratio of the smaller part of this line, GB to the larger part AG (ie the ratio GB/AG) is the SAME as the ratio of the larger part, AG, to the whole line AB (ie is the same as the ratio AG/AB). If we let the line AB have unit length and AG have length g (so that GB is then just 1–g) then the definition means that


     GB = AG  or 1–g = g  so that 1–g=g2

     AG   AB      g    1

     
Notice that earlier we defined Phi2 as Phi+1 and here we have g2 = 1–g or g2+g=1.
We can solve this in the same way as for Phi and we find that
g =  –1 +sqrt5   or g =  –1 – sqrt5

2

2

So there are two numbers which when added to their squares give 1. For our geometrical problem, g is a positive number so the first value is the one we want. This is our friend phi also equal to Phi–1 (and the other value is merely –Phi).

It seems that this ratio had been of interest to earlier Greek mathematicians, especially Pythagoras (580BC - 500BC) and his "school".

    Things to do
  1. Suppose we labelled the parts of our line as follows:
    

                     A            G       B

                           x          1                

        
    so that AB is now has length 1+x. If Euclid's "division of AB into mean and extreme ratio" still applies to point G, what quadratic equation do you now get for x? What is the value of x?

Links on Euclid and his "Elements"

WWW: From Clarke University comes D Joyce's exciting project making Euclid's Elements interactive using Java applets.

Phi and the Egyptian Pyramids?

The Rhind Papyrus of about 1650 BC is one of the oldest mathematical works in existence, giving methods and problems used by the ancient Babylonians and Egyptians. It includes the solution to some problems about pyramids but it does not mention anything about the golden ratio Phi.

The ratio of the length of a face of the Great Pyramid (from centre of the bottom of a face to the apex of the pyramid) to the distance from the same point to the exact centre of the pyramid's base square is about 1·6. It is a matter of debate whether this was "intended" to be the golden section number or not.
According to Elmer Robinson (see the reference below), using the average of eight sets of data, says that "the theory that the perimeter of the pyramid divided by twice its vertical height is the value of pi" fits the data much better than the theory above about Phi.
The following references will explain circumstantial evidence for and against:

WWW: The golden section in The Kings Tomb in Egy pt.
Article: How to Find the "Golden Number" without really trying Roger Fischler, Fibonacci Quarterly, 1981, Vol 19, pp 406 - 410
Case studies include the Great Pyramid of Cheops and the various theories propounded to explain its dimensions, the golden section in architecture, its use by Le Corbusier and Seurat and in the visual arts. He concludes that several of the works that purport to show Phi was used are, in fact, fallacious and "without any foundation whatever".
Article: The Fibonacci Drawing Board Design of the Great Pyramid of Gizeh Col. R S Beard in Fibonacci Quarterly vol 6, 1968, pages 85 - 87;
has three separate theories (only one of which involves the golden section) which agree quite well with the dimensions as measured in 1880.
Article: A Note on the Geometry of the Great Pyramid Elmer D Robinson in The Fibonacci Quarterly vol 20 (1982) page 343
shows that the theory involving pi fits much better than the one regarding Phi.
Article: George Markowsky's Misconceptions about the Golden ratio in The College Mathematics Journal Vol 23, January 1992, pages 2-19.
This is readable and well presented. You may or may not agree with all that Markowsky says, but this is a very good article that tries to debunk a simplistic and unscientific "cult" status being attached to Phi, seeing it where it really is not! He has some convincing arguments that Phi does not occur in the measurements of the Egyptian pyramids.

Other names for Phi

Euclid (about 300BC) in his "Elements" calls dividing a line at the 0.6180399.. point dividing a line in the extreme and mean ratio. This later gave rise to the name golden mean.

There are no extant records of the Greek architects' plans for their most famous temples and buildings (such as the Parthenon). So we do not know if they deliberately used the golden section in their architectural plans. The American mathematician Mark Barr used the Greek letter phi (phi) to represent the golden ratio, using the initial letter of the Greek Phidias who used the golden ratio in his sculptures.

Luca Pacioli (also written as Paccioli) wrote a book called De Divina Proportione (The Divine Proportion) in 1509. It contains drawings made by Leonardo da Vinci of the 5 Platonic solids. It was probably Leonardo (da Vinci) who first called it the sectio aurea (Latin for the golden section).

Today, mathematicians also use the Greek letter tau (t), the initial letter of tome which is the Greek work for "cut" as well as phi.

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Phi to 2000 decimal places

Phi has the value  sqrt5 + 1   and phi is  sqrt5 – 1  .

2

2

Both have identical fractional parts after the decimal point. Both are also irrational which means that Later on this page we will show why Phi and phi cannot be written as exact fractions. There is another surprise in store later when we find which fractions are the best approximations to Phi.

Here is the decimal value of Phi to 2000 places grouped in blocks of 5 decimal digits. The value of phi is the same but begins with 0·6.. instead of 1·6.. .
Read this as ordinary text, in lines across, so Phi is 1·61803398874...)

 

                                                              Dps:    

1·61803 39887 49894 84820 45868 34365 63811 77203 09179 80576   50

  28621 35448 62270 52604 62818 90244 97072 07204 18939 11374  100

  84754 08807 53868 91752 12663 38622 23536 93179 31800 60766

  72635 44333 89086 59593 95829 05638 32266 13199 28290 26788  200

  06752 08766 89250 17116 96207 03222 10432 16269 54862 62963

  13614 43814 97587 01220 34080 58879 54454 74924 61856 95364  300

  86444 92410 44320 77134 49470 49565 84678 85098 74339 44221

  25448 77066 47809 15884 60749 98871 24007 65217 05751 79788  400

  34166 25624 94075 89069 70400 02812 10427 62177 11177 78053

  15317 14101 17046 66599 14669 79873 17613 56006 70874 80710  500

  

  13179 52368 94275 21948 43530 56783 00228 78569 97829 77834

  78458 78228 91109 76250 03026 96156 17002 50464 33824 37764

  86102 83831 26833 03724 29267 52631 16533 92473 16711 12115

  88186 38513 31620 38400 52221 65791 28667 52946 54906 81131

  71599 34323 59734 94985 09040 94762 13222 98101 72610 70596

  11645 62990 98162 90555 20852 47903 52406 02017 27997 47175

  34277 75927 78625 61943 20827 50513 12181 56285 51222 48093

  94712 34145 17022 37358 05772 78616 00868 83829 52304 59264

  78780 17889 92199 02707 76903 89532 19681 98615 14378 03149

  97411 06926 08867 42962 26757 56052 31727 77520 35361 39362 1000

  

  10767 38937 64556 06060 59216 58946 67595 51900 40055 59089

  50229 53094 23124 82355 21221 24154 44006 47034 05657 34797

  66397 23949 49946 58457 88730 39623 09037 50339 93856 21024

  23690 25138 68041 45779 95698 12244 57471 78034 17312 64532

  20416 39723 21340 44449 48730 23154 17676 89375 21030 68737

  88034 41700 93954 40962 79558 98678 72320 95124 26893 55730

  97045 09595 68440 17555 19881 92180 20640 52905 51893 49475

  92600 73485 22821 01088 19464 45442 22318 89131 92946 89622

  00230 14437 70269 92300 78030 85261 18075 45192 88770 50210

  96842 49362 71359 25187 60777 88466 58361 50238 91349 33331

  

  22310 53392 32136 24319 26372 89106 70503 39928 22652 63556

  20902 97986 42472 75977 25655 08615 48754 35748 26471 81414

  51270 00602 38901 62077 73224 49943 53088 99909 50168 03281

  12194 32048 19643 87675 86331 47985 71911 39781 53978 07476

  15077 22117 50826 94586 39320 45652 09896 98555 67814 10696

  83728 84058 74610 33781 05444 39094 36835 83581 38113 11689

  93855 57697 54841 49144 53415 09129 54070 05019 47754 86163

  07542 26417 29394 68036 73198 05861 83391 83285 99130 39607

  20144 55950 44977 92120 76124 78564 59161 60837 05949 87860

  06970 18940 98864 00764 43617 09334 17270 91914 33650 13715 2000




Phi to 10,000,000 places!

Simon Plouffe of Simon Fraser University notes that Greg J Fee programmed a method of his to compute the golden ratio (Phi) to ten million places in December 1996. He used Maple and it took about 30 minutes on a 194MHz computer. Have a look at the first part with 15,000 decimal places. The rest are organised in several files which you can investigate using this index.
Phi's value in binary to 500 places is:
 

1·10011 11000 11011 10111 10011 01110 01011 11111 01001 01001

  11110 00001 01011 11100 11100 11100 11000 00001 10000 00101 100

  11001 11011 01110 01000 00110 10000 01000 01000 00100 01001

  11011 01011 11110 01110 10001 00111 00100 10100 01111 11000 200

  01101 10001 10101 00001 00011 10100 00110 00001 10001 11010

  01010 10010 01110 11001 11111 10000 10110 00101 01001 11101 300

  00100 11110 11011 11111 00000 01101 00011 10000 01000 10110

  11010 11011 11110 00110 00001 00111 11110 00000 01100 01000 400

  01101 11100 00100 10010 10000 10000 00001 10000 00000 01011

  00000 11101 01100 10010 11101 00100 00001 11100 11001 10101 500

Neither the decimal form of Phi, nor the binary one nor any other base have any ultimate repeating pattern in their digits.

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Phi and the Fibonacci numbers

On the Fibonacci and Nature page we saw a graph which showed that the ratio of successive Fibonacci numbers gets closer and closer to Phi.

Here is the connection the other way round, where we can discover the Fibonacci numbers arising from the number Phi.

The graph on the right shows a line whose gradient is Phi, that is the line

y = Phi x = 1·6180339.. x

Since Phi is not the ratio of any two integers, the graph will never go through any points of the form (i,j) where i and j are whole numbers - apart from one trivial exception - can you spot it?
So we can ask
What are the nearest integer-coordinate points to the Phi line?
Let's start at the origin and work up the line.
The first is (0,0) of course, so here ARE two integers i=0 and j=0 making the point (i,j) exactly on the line! In fact ANY line y=kx will go through the origin, so that is why we will ignore this point as a "trivial exception" (as mathematicians like to put it).
The next point close to the line looks like (0,1) although (1,2) is nearer still. The next nearest seems even closer: (2,3) and (3,5) even closer again. So far our sequence of "integer coordinate points close to the Phi line" is as follows: (0,1), (1,2), (2,3), (3,5)
What is the next closest point? and the next? Surprised? The coordinates are successive Fibonacci numbers!

Let's call these the Fibonacci points. Notice that the ratio y/x for each Fibonacci point (x,y) gets closer and closer to Phi=1·618... but the interesting point that we see on this graph is that

the Fibonacci points are the closest points to the Phi line.

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The Ratio of neighbouring Fibonacci Numbers tends to Phi

On the Fibonacci Numbers and Nature page we saw that the ratio of two neighbouring Fibonacci numbers soon settled down to a particular value near 1·6:
fibratio.gif
In fact, the exact value is Phi and, the larger the two Fibonacci numbers, the closer their ratio is to Phi. Why? Here we show how this happens.

The basic Fibonacci relationship is

F(i+2) = F(i+1) + F(i)       The Fibonacci relationship

The graph shows that the ratio F(i+1)/F(i) seems to get closer and closer to a particular value, which for now we will call X.
If we take three neighbouring Fibonacci numbers, F(i), F(i+1) and F(i+2) then, for very large values of i, the ratio of F(i) and F(i+1) will be almost the same as F(i+1) and F(i+2), so let's see what happens if both of these are the same value: X.

F(i+1)  = F(i+2)  = X

F(i)

F(i+1)
But, using the The Fibonacci relationship we can replace F(i+2) by F(i+1)+F(i) and then simplify the resulting fraction a bit, as follows:
F(i+2)

F(i+1)
 =
F(i+1) + F(i)

F(i+1)
 =
F(i+1)  + F(i)

F(i+1)

F(i+1)
 =
1 + F(i)

F(i+1)
So, putting in this new format of F(i+2)/F(i+1) back into the equation for X, we have:
X = F(i+1)  = 1 + F(i)

F(i)

F(i+1)
But the last fraction is just 1 + 1/X, so now we have an equation purely in terms of X:
X = F(i+1)  = 1 + F(i)  = 1 + 1

F(i)

F(i+1)

X
Multiplying both sides by X gives:
X = 1 + 1

X
X2 = X + 1
But we have seen this equation before in A simple definition of Phi so know that X is, indeed, exactly Phi!

Remember, this supposed that the ratio of two pairs of neighbours in the Fibonacci series was the same value. This only happens "in the limit" as mathematicians say. So what happens is that, as the series progresses, the ratios get closer and closer to this limiting value, or, in other words, the ratios get closer and closer to Phi the further down the series that we go.

Did you notice that we have not used the two starting values in this proof? No matter what two values we start with, if we apply the the Fibonacci relationship to continue the series, the ratio of two terms will (in the limit) always be Phi!

But there are two values that satisfy X2 = X + 1 aren't there?

Yes, there are. The other value, –phi which is –0·618... is revealed if we extend the Fibonacci series backwards. We still maintain the same Fibonacci relationship but we can find numbers before 0 and still keep this relationship:
i ... –10 –9 –8 –7 –6 –5 –4 –3 –2 –1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ...
Fib(i) ... –55 34 –21 13 –8 5 –3 2 –1 1 0 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 ...
When we use this complete Fibonacci series and plot the ratios F(i)/F(i–1) we see that the ratios on the left-hand side of 0 are
1  = –1, –1  = –0.5, 2  = –0.666.., –3  = –0.6, 5  = –0.625, ...

–1

2

–3

5

–8
Plotting these shows both solutions to X2 = X + 1:-
fibPlot

Another definition of Phi

We defined Phi to be (one of the two values given by)
Phi2 = Phi+1

Suppose we divide both sides of this equation by Phi:
Phi = 1 + 1/Phi

Here is another definition of Phi - that number which is 1 more than its reciprocal
(the reciprocal of a number is 1 over it so that, for example, the reciprocal of 2 is 1/2 and the reciprocal of 9 is 1/9).

A formula for Phi using a continued fraction

Look again at the last equation:
Phi = 1 + 1/Phi
This means that wherever we see "Phi" we can substitute (1 + 1/Phi).
But we see Phi on the right hand side, so lets substitute it in there!
Phi = 1 + 1/(1 + 1/Phi)
In fact, we can do this again and again and get:


    Phi = 1 +       1         = 1 + 1/( 1 + 1/( 1 + 1/( 1 +.. ))) 

               1 +     1    

                   1 +   1  

                       1 + ..

   
This unusual expression is called a continued fraction since we continue to form fractions underneath fractions underneath fractions.

This continued fraction has a big surprise in store for us....

Phi is not a fraction

But Phi is a fraction .. it is (sqrt5 + 1)/2.
Here, by a fraction we mean a number fraction such as 2/3 or –17/24 or 12/7 or 8/12. The first two here are proper fractions since they are less than 1; the third can also be written as 15/7, which has a whole part (1) and a fraction part (5/7) so it is a mixed number; the fourth is not in its lowest terms since it is the same as 2/3 which is in its lowest terms since there is no simpler representation of this quantity. Also 5.61 is a fraction, a decimal fraction since it is 561/100, the ratio of a whole number and a power of ten.
Strictly, all whole numbers can be written as fractions if we make the denominator (the part below the line) equal to 1! However, we commonly use the word fraction when there really is a fraction in the value.

Mathematicians call all these fractional (and whole) numbers rational numbers because they are the ratio of two whole numbers and it is these number fractions that we will mean by fraction in this section.

It may seem as if all number can be written as fractions - but this is, in fact, false. There are numbers which are not the ratio of any two whole numbers, eg sqrt2=1.41421356... , =3.14159..., e=2.71828... . Such values are called ir-ratio-nal since they cannot be represented as a ratio of two whole numbers (ie a fraction). A simple consequence of this is that their decimal fraction expansions go on for ever and never repeat at any stage!

Can we write Phi as a fraction?
The answer is "No!" and there is a surprisingly simple proof of this. Here it is. [This proof was given in the Fibonacci Quarterly, volume 13, 1975, page 32, in A simple Proof that Phi is Irrational by J Shallit and later corrected by D Ross - see below.]

Suppose we could write Phi as A/B where A and B are two integers. If this was possible then we can choose the simplest form for Phi and write Phi=p/q (p and q are integers again) but now p and q will have no factors in common. What we now show is that this leads to a logical contradiction. The only assumption we have made is that Phi can be written as a fraction and, since this will lead to a logical impossibility, then this assumption must be wrong - i.e. Phi cannot be written as a fraction.

The definition of Phi (and also of –phi) is that it satisfies the equation



             Phi2 – Phi = 1   (*)
So, if we are assuming that Phi can be written as p/q, we substitute this in:


             (p/q)2 – p/q = 1 
Since q is not zero, we can multiply through by q2 to get:


             p2 – pq = q2   (**)
but we can factorise the left hand side, so
 

             p(p – q) = q2
Since the left hand side has a factor of p then so must the right hand side. In other words p is a factor of q2.
Since we said that p and q had no factor in common - except 1 which is a factor common to all numbers - then p must be 1.

Note there is an error in the paper quoted above, which is corrected in the next paragraph and in A Letter to the Editor from David Ross in Fibonacci Quarterly vol 13 (1975) page 198.

Also, by re-arranging the equation marked (**) above, we have:

 

             p2 =  q2 + pq

                =  q(q + p)
so q, being a factor of the right-hand side must also be a factor of the left-hand side, which is p2. But again, since p and q have no common factor except 1 then q also must be 1 too!

Here is the contradiction if both p and 1 are 1, then p/q is 1 and this does not satisfy our original equation for Phi, the one marked (*).
So we have a logical impossibility if we assume Phi can be written as a proper fraction.
The only possibility that logical allows therefore is that Phi cannot be written as a proper fraction - Phi is irrational.

Rational Approximations to Phi

If no fraction can be the exact value of Phi, what fractions are good approximations to Phi?

The answer lies in the continued fraction for Phi that we saw earlier on this page.
If we stop the continued fraction for Phi at various points, we get values which approximate to Phi:

Phi = 1  
 
 
 
Phi = 1 + 1
1
  = 2  
 
Phi = 1 + 1
1 + 1
1
  = 3
2
Phi = 1 + 1
1 + 1
1 + 1
1
  = 5
3

The next approximation is always 1 plus 1-over-the-previous-approximation (shown in green).
Did you notice that this series of fractions is just the ratios of successive Fibonacci numbers - surprise!

The proper mathematical term for these fractions which are formed from stopping a continued fraction for Phi at various points is the convergents to Phi. The series of convergents is

1 ,   2 ,   3 ,   5 ,   8 ,   13 ,   21 ,   ...
1 1 2 3 5 8 13

Why do Fibonacci numbers occur in the convergents?

This is an optional section where we show exactly why the Fibonacci numbers appear in the successive approximations (the convergents) above. Skip to the next section if you like!

The convergents start with 1/1 which is F(1)/F(0)
where F(n) represents the n-th Fibonacci number.

To get from one fraction to the next, we saw that we just take the reciprocal of the fraction and add 1:
so the next one after F(1)/F(0) is



     1 +      1     =  1 +   F(0) = F(1)+F(0)

          F(1)/F(0)          F(1)     F(1)

   

But the Fibonacci numbers have the property that two successive numbers add to give the next, so F(1)+F(0)=F(2) and our next fraction can be written as



     1 +      1      =  1 +  F(0) =   F(1)+F(0) =  F(2)

          F(1)/F(0)          F(1)        F(1)      F(1)

   

So starting with the ratio of the first two Fibonacci numbers the next convergent to Phi is the ratio of the next two Fibonacci numbers.

This always happens:
if we have F(n)/F(n–1) as a convergent to Phi, then the next convergent is F(n+1)/F(n).

We will get all the ratios of successive Fibonacci numbers as values which get closer and closer to Phi.

You can find out more about continued fractions and how they relate to splitting a rectangle into squares and also to Euclid's algorithm on the Introduction to Continued Fractions page at this site.

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Other ways to find Phi using your calculator

Here are two more interesting ways to find it.

Calculator Method 1: Invert and Add 1

Keep repeating these two operations (take the reciprocal, add 1) and you will find that soon the display does not alter and settles down ("converging" as mathematicians call it) to a particular value, namely 1.61803... .

In fact, you can start with many values but not all (for instance 0 or -1 will cause problems) and it will still converge to the same value: Phi.

Why?

The formula Phi=1+1/Phi shows us where the two instructions come from.
To start, we note that the simplest approximation to the continued fraction above is just 1.
    Things to do
  1. In Calculator method 1, 0 causes a problem because we cannot take its reciprocal.
    So if x is -1, when we take its reciprocal (1/-1 = -1 ) and add 1 we get 0. So 0 and -1 are bad choices since they don't lead to Phi.
    What value of x will give -1? And what value of x would give that value?
    Can you find a whole series of numbers which, in fact, do not lead to Phi with Calculator method 1?
    [Thanks to Warren Criswell for this problem.]

Calculator Method 2: Add 1 and take the square-root

Here is another way to get Phi on your calculator. Keep repeating these two instructions and you will find it too converges to Phi.

Why?

This time we have used the other definition of Phi, namely


      Phi2 = Phi + 1 

      
or, taking the square root of both sides:


       Phi=sqrt(Phi+1)

       
Can you see why we must start with a number which is not smaller (i.e. is not more negative) than –1?

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Similar numbers

Robert Kerr Baxter wrote to me about other numbers that have the Phi property that when you square them their decimal parts remain the same:
Phi = 1.618033.. and Phi2 is 2.618033..
Phi has the value  sqrt5 + 1

2
Rob had noticed that this happens if we replace the sqrt5 with sqrt13 or sqrt17 or sqrt21 and so on. The series of number here is 5, (9), 13, 17, 21, (25), 29, ... which are the numbers that are 1 more than the multiples of 4. The numbers 9 and 25 are in brackets because they are perfect squares, so taking their square roots gives a whole number - in fact, an odd number - so when we add 1 and divide the result by two we just get a whole number with .00000... as the decimal part.

Why does this happen?


Algebra can come to our help here and it is a nice application of "Solving Quadratics" that we have already seen in the first section on this page.

We want to find a formula for the numbers (x, say) "that have the same decimal part as their squares". So, if we subtract x from x2, the result will be a whole number because the decimal parts were identical. Let's call this difference N, remembering that it is a whole number.
So

the difference between x2 and x is N, a whole number
is a description of these numbers in words. We can write this in the language of mathematics as follows:
x2 – x = N spacer or, adding x to both sides: spacer x2 = N + x
and we can "solve" it in exactly the same way as we did for Phi's quadratic: x2 = 1 + x. The formula for x this time is
x = 1 ± sqrt(1 + 4N)

2
You can see that, under the square-root sign, we have 1 plus a multiple of 4 which gives the series:
N: 1 2 3 4 5 ...
1+4N: 5 9 13 17 21 ...
just as Rob had found.

For example: if we choose N=5, then the number x (that increases by exactly 5 when squared) is

x = 1 ± sqrt(1 + 45)  = 1 ± sqrt21  = 2.791287847.. and x2 = 7.791287847... = 5 + x

2

2
Checking we see that the square of this x is exactly N ( i.e. 5) more than the original number x.

Another example: take Phi, which is (1 + sqrt5)/2 or (1 + sqrt(1+41))/2 so that N=1. Thus we can "predict" that Phi squared will be (N=)1 more than Phi itself and, indeed, Phi=1.618033.. and Phi2=2.618033.. .
We can do the same for other whole number values for N.

More generally: There is nothing in the maths of this section that prevents N from being any number, for instance 0·5 or . Suppose N is pi (=3.1415926535... ). We can find the number x that, when squared, increases by exactly ! It is

x = 1 ± sqrt(1 + 4)  = 1 ± sqrt12.566370614...  = 2·3416277185...

2

2
and x2 = 5·483220372... = 2·3416277185... + 3.1415926535...
    Things to do
  1. Make a table of the first few numbers similar to Phi in this way, starting with Phi and its square.
  2. We have only used the + sign in the formula for x above, giving positive values of x.
    What negative values of x are there, that is negative numbers which, when squared (becoming positive) have exactly the same decimal fraction part?
  3. What is the number that can be squared by just adding 0·5?
  4. Is there an upper limit to the size of N?
    Can you use the formula to find two numbers that increase by one million (1,000,000) when squared?
  5. Can N be negative?
  6. For instance, can we use the formula to find a number (as we have seen, there are two of them) that is 0·5 smaller when it is squared?
  7. What about a number that decreases by 1 when it is squared?
  8. Is there a lower limit for the value of N?

We look at some other numbers similar to Phi but in a different way on the (optional) Continued Fractions page. This time we find numbers which are like the Golden Mean, Phi, in that their decimal fraction parts are the same when we take their reciprocals, ie find 1/x. They are called the Silver Means.

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282 posted on 08/03/2002 12:58:10 AM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: All
The link to the University of Surrey should be..

University of Surrey

283 posted on 08/03/2002 1:05:38 AM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: FormerLurker
A) EM "activity" can be read on a magnetometer
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I have the more simple tri-field meter made by the same folks. Which I think will only measure pulsing magnetic fields. Electromagnetic fields.
284 posted on 08/03/2002 1:57:05 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: FormerLurker


285 posted on 08/03/2002 3:13:03 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: FormerLurker
So to put it nicely, you are in fact a B*TTHOLE SURFER, as you and your buddies are infatuated with ANAL PROBES...

If you apologize immediately then maybe, just MAYBE, I won't post my colonoscopy pictures.

286 posted on 08/03/2002 6:35:31 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
I have no idea what this might mean, but if you do a Google search on "homosexual crop circles" you get over 1,000 hits. I sense a hidden meaning here.
287 posted on 08/03/2002 7:31:32 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
Hmmm. necrophilia crop circles UFO only gets 14 hits.
288 posted on 08/03/2002 8:02:20 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Google search on "anal probe crop circles" produces 354 hits. A pattern begins to emerge ...
289 posted on 08/03/2002 8:07:20 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: Dengar01
If you post a pic of the crop circle, please ping me. I used to live in Naperville. Thanks.

Leni

290 posted on 08/03/2002 8:12:06 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: VadeRetro
One more Google search: "crop circle flaming idiot" gives 651 hits. It's all starting to make sense to me now.
291 posted on 08/03/2002 8:19:11 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry; VadeRetro
A pattern, yes...180 hits for bestiality crop circles...
292 posted on 08/03/2002 8:25:34 AM PDT by general_re
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To: general_re; VadeRetro
Google gives 1,110 hits on "pornography crop circles." And if you limit the search to "child pornography crop circles" you still get 726 hits.
293 posted on 08/03/2002 8:28:58 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry; VadeRetro; longshadow
I estimate that the odds that crop circle aliens are filthy molesting perverts to be approximately 1 in 1.618.
294 posted on 08/03/2002 8:35:16 AM PDT by general_re
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To: general_re
And we all know Statistics are used all over in science. Our evidence is statistical, ergo it's also scientific. QED.
295 posted on 08/03/2002 8:51:03 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: PatrickHenry
"Serial sheep killer crop circles" gets 100 hits. I'm calling the FBI (Farmers Bureau of Investigation).
296 posted on 08/03/2002 8:54:21 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Try "communist crop circles" and you get almost 4,000 Google hits. Now the plot thickens!
297 posted on 08/03/2002 9:30:06 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry

Now that's a message!

Anyway, as soon as the movie flops, we can all get back to real life.

298 posted on 08/03/2002 10:19:54 AM PDT by balrog666
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To: FormerLurker; general_re; PatrickHenry; VadeRetro; RadioAstronomer; Scully; Godel; ...
Before I prove you to be a complete, total, utterly ignorant fool, why don't you retract some of what you said? [emphasis added to highlight the gratuitous personal smear and threatening behavior]

The reasons I have for not retracting "anything" I wrote are as follows:

1) you have not provided a scintilla of evidence to refute anything I wrote.

2) you have provided NO evidence that the Math Depts. of the top 50 Universities teach technical courses in "Sacred Geometry," which should be trivially easy to do, if it is as Mathematically important as you keep making it out to be.

3) your bloviating threats to "prove you to be a complete, total, utterly ignorant fool" don't impress me in the least.

4) and last, but not least, I decline your "invitation" to retract my statements because, how shall I put this...........
I already have a degree in Mathematics from a top-25 University.

To recapitulate my point, "Sacred Geometry" isn't part of the curricula of serious Mathematics Departments, and serious Mathematicians, like Peano, Cantor, Hilbert, Gödel, Whitehead, and Russell, didn't, and don't, spend their time working on it or worrying about what the value of "phi" is to a bazzillionth decimal place.

Hence, the idea that Space Aliens would travel the Galaxy to stomp "messages" about "Sacred Geometry" in farmer's fields makes no sense at all, at least to someone formally trained in Mathematics.

So spare me your assinine threats to "prove me a fool" and so forth, and spare me your private FReepmail telling me your opinion of my intellect and how closed-minded you think I am. But you are entitled to your opinion.....

299 posted on 08/03/2002 10:38:18 AM PDT by longshadow
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To: longshadow
I already have a degree in Mathematics from a top-25 University.

Hehe...I love it when you're subtle! :)

300 posted on 08/03/2002 11:57:26 AM PDT by Scully
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