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MUDD MAD! Threates To Close Westerfield Trial To Media-Reports Of Mad-Dogging!!!
Yahoo News ^ | July 25, 2002 | Yahoo

Posted on 07/25/2002 4:26:37 PM PDT by FresnoDA

MUDD MAD!!!

Judge William D. Mudd admonishes the media about attempts to photograph Neal Westerfield, son of defendant David Westerfield, as the son left the courtroom during a break in his testimony Wednesday afternoon, July 24, 2002, in San Diego. The judge had ordered the media not to film the teen. David Westerfield is accused of the kidnapping and murder of 7-year old Danielle van Dam from her home in February. (AP Photo/Pool, Dan Trevan)
Wed Jul 24, 8:33 PM ET

Judge William D. Mudd admonishes the media about attempts to photograph Neal Westerfield, son of defendant David Westerfield, as the son left the courtroom during a break in his testimony Wednesday afternoon, July 24, 2002, in San Diego. The judge had ordered the media not to film the teen. David Westerfield is accused of the kidnapping and murder of 7-year old Danielle van Dam from her home in February. (AP Photo/Pool, Dan Trevan)


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KEYWORDS: vandam; westerfield
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To: Spunky
San Diego police arrested Whitmore on Jan. 27 The same day Danielle's body was found. My they were busy that day.

All this January February stuff is confusing me. Did Danielle die in Jan or Feb???

101 posted on 07/25/2002 10:44:46 PM PDT by Karson
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To: hoosiermama
What the heck is going on..?!!!

Whitmore lost his job as a child counselor and computer expert at the Stein Education Center after he was arrested

Just in casual conversations with people about these types of issues..they are listening to the news...and are clutching their kids a little tighter than normal. Have you noticed a chance it attitudes about kids at all?

102 posted on 07/25/2002 10:46:50 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: cyncooper
The orange fibers in question were long acrylic. Witness said the type of fibers in a blanket.

...or a sweater as shown in court this week

or a safety vest

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103 posted on 07/25/2002 10:47:18 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Karson
karson, it was Feb 1st, a friday night they went to dads..and the next morning, feb 2nd she turned up missing.
104 posted on 07/25/2002 10:47:51 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I hope this isn't the same child counselor that the VD children were seeing!
105 posted on 07/25/2002 10:49:47 PM PDT by Karson
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To: Beach_Babe
Hm, so how did those same type of fibers get tangled in Danielle's hair around her necklace, in Westerfields laundry---all of it, from washer,dryer and on top of the dryer, in his bed in the master bedroom, on a towel in the MH and in his SUV????
106 posted on 07/25/2002 10:55:46 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Karson
Oh God please protect those little babies from further pain and harm... Karson, this kind of stuff really gets to me. Predators can be like chameleons....child counselors, etc... how in the heck could anyone know or prevent something like that?
107 posted on 07/25/2002 10:56:15 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Karson
Predators can be like chameleons meaning just blend in to fit in.. Does that makes sense?
108 posted on 07/25/2002 10:56:47 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Karson
All this January February stuff is confusing me. Did Danielle die in Jan or Feb???

Nobody knows for sure when she died in Feb. The VanDams said she was in bed 2/1 then disappeared. We don't know for sure if she was killed that night or any night until her body was found 2/27.

The thing about the Jan time is the Anthropologist today put the time of death 4 to 6 weeks from the time the body was found 2/27. 6 weeks from that time would put it almost the middle of January.

There is no evidence she was missing before 2/1 so his timeline is way out of line.

His testimony never helped the prosecution at all IMO.

109 posted on 07/25/2002 10:59:37 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Predators can be like chameleons....child counselors, etc... how in the heck could anyone know or prevent something like that?

We had one here in our Middle School. He preyed on the Special Ed children.

The school had reports of this happening but ignored it. Finally he was caught and brought to trial.

110 posted on 07/25/2002 11:03:11 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: is_is; FresnoDA
ON a serious note, this witness did an awesome job explaining mummification. I was afraid they were not going to even discuss it.

~THIS IS THE NO SPIN ZONE~ :)
The prosecutor, more than likely hooked the jury when they started discussing how the skin can dehyrdate quickly on small children, within 24 hrs...it would be unappetizing to bugs until the skin is broken by animals, such as a rodent. He did a great job explaining the bacteria's role in decomposition as well. He makes it understandable as to why there was no bodily fluids under the body or settled underneath her. It explains a LOT. Feldman might recover, if he has a rebuttal witness that's an expert mummyologist too.
111 posted on 07/25/2002 11:05:55 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Spunky
The school had reports

ANOTHER reason to homeschool. I dont' even want to get started on the pathetic bureaucratic BS in the public skool sistam. After this trial is over....it's time for a break from child crimes.. AAARRRRGH.

112 posted on 07/25/2002 11:09:18 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Beach_Babe
Would have been helpful if they would have tested fibers from the vests, the orange shirts that LEO was wearing while evidence collecting, see if 180Frank used an orange blanket in his car to protect from dog hair, etc.

If they had a source we could at least know all these fibers were the same.

I still want to know about the brilliant emerald green, red, and light blue fibers that were found all over Danielle but not one in DW's environment...those are the important fibers, IMO.

113 posted on 07/25/2002 11:09:27 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: homeschool mama
For some reason, your name was left off. This was to you too.

The school had reports

ANOTHER reason to homeschool. I dont' even want to get started on the pathetic bureaucratic BS in the public skool sistam. After this trial is over....it's time for a break from child crimes.. AAARRRRGH.

114 posted on 07/25/2002 11:10:20 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: cyncooper
I don't know...maybe they all bought orange towels at Walmart. Damon's alma mater was UF...the gator's colors are orange and blue. Surely, he has momentos from his college days...possibly their acrylic stadium blanket. I wonder what color Layla's bed was...

If my memory hasn't failed me, other colors were found also (remember the "plaid" question?), but only the orange ones seem to matter the LEO.

I don't trust any LEO. I had dealings with NYPD in shooting death of my husband. Their investigation was more than flawed, and they made sure they covered their a$$es. The last words one of them said to me was that he "had to protect his pension and make sure I didn't sue NYPD."

115 posted on 07/25/2002 11:19:54 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Beach_Babe
BB, I can't imagine what you have had to go thru..my prayers are with you. Freepmail..
116 posted on 07/25/2002 11:26:47 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: rolling_stone; wirestripper; Jhoffa_; GummyIII; Lanza; sneakypete; shezza; DUDLEY; winstar1k; ...
EVERYONE SHOULD CHECK OUT POSTS 90, 97 and 98.
117 posted on 07/26/2002 12:32:30 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
It just never ends,

Man Accused Of Grabbing Girl Near Bus Stop POSTED: 2:31 p.m. PDT July 25, 2002 UPDATED: 6:03 p.m. PDT July 25, 2002 SAN DIEGO -- A man arrested for allegedly trying to kidnap an 8-year-old girl off the street last week is free after posting bail. Police arrested Ruben Fuerte, 50, on Monday in the 2800 block of University Avenue in North Park, said San Diego police Sgt. Bill Nemec. Investigators said he tried to grab the child near a bus stop in the Oak Park neighborhood at about 4 p.m. on July 16. The girl broke free and was able to run to safety, they said. Fuerte was booked into county jail on suspicion of attempted kidnapping of a child under age 14, Nemec said. Fuerte posted $100,000 bail on Wednesday and was released pending an arraignment hearing on July 31.

118 posted on 07/26/2002 12:46:06 AM PDT by JesseShurun
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To: Spunky
San Diego police arrested Whitmore on Jan. 27

The same day Danielle's body was found. My they were busy that day.

Danielle was found Feb 27th.

119 posted on 07/26/2002 1:03:29 AM PDT by dread78645
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To: All
Just in casual conversations with people about these types of issues..they are listening to the news...
and are clutching their kids a little tighter than normal.
Have you noticed a chance it attitudes about kids at all?

Could anybody fluent in Kimmy-speak care to translate this ?

120 posted on 07/26/2002 1:08:45 AM PDT by dread78645
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