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Is Free Republic a Failure?
vanity ^ | July 6, 2002 | B. A. Conservative

Posted on 07/06/2002 2:31:54 PM PDT by B. A. Conservative

"Founded in 1996 by Jim Robinson, Free Republic is a loosely organized group of grassroots Americans who support our Constitution and look for honesty, integrity and honor from those in government."

What is our mission? "Free Republic is dedicated to reversing the trend of unconstitutional government expansion and is advocating a complete restoration of our constitutional republic." Jim Robinson has listed a great deal more worthwhile information and detail concerning the mission and a description of Free Republic. The current mission statement has been edited from an earlier version to account for past events. The original mission statement included language advocating the impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton, then President of the United States. Free Republic accomplished that portion of its mission statement by playing a central role in the events culminating in the successful vote in the House of Representatives to Impeach William Jefferson Clinton. For its role in the impeachment, Free Republic is an unequivocal and unqualified success.

However in evaluating and measuring Free Republic's performance with regard to the larger and by far the more significant role, "reversing the trend of unconstitutional government expansion and a complete restoration of our constitutional republic", I think the leadership and members of Free Republic need to refocus their thinking. By using any yardstick of your own choosing, there are few if any parameters in which conservatives can claim any improvement. And in any small victories that might have occurred, I would ask that you point out the role played by Free Republic in bringing it about. In short, I think that Free Republic has lost its focus on its most important reason for being.

Before offering my suggestions for getting back on track, I would like offer some thoughts on how and why we have become distracted from the primary focus as so eloquently stated by Jim Robinson:

The two courses of action most likely to offer a speedy and effective return to our Constitutional Republic are political and judicial. The left has used judicial appointments very effectively against the Constitution. Reagan advanced the task of recovering the federal judiciary, but we still have a long way to go in this area. Nevertheless, strategic use of the courts could be a very effective weapon in our arsenal. I think this should be the topic of some very serious discussions on how we can use the courts to attack existing unconstitutional government actions, laws and regulations. It takes someone to bring an action, and some legal thought to make such efforts productive. Forum shopping and plaintiff seeking are actively used by our opposition. I think this is an area where we can do much more than we have been doing.

And that brings us to the area of the greatest interest to us all. And it is in this arena that we are more likely to bring the quick results that we all desire. Well thought out, carefully crafted political activism can be effective. And each election offers opportunities to build on prior successes and to learn from prior mistakes. I will proffer that we have done little more than chat or indulge in wishful thinking. Our attempts at organized planning, coordination or unification of efforts, orderly assignment of tasks and delegation of responsibilities have been largely non-existent. All volunteer labor is hard to harness and effectively deploy. But it is not impossible.

Our computers and the internet provide the means to share and coordinate our efforts. It could also provide the means of choosing our leaders, delegation of tasks and responsibilities, and our most powerful weapon in recruiting new talents. Every human on the planet that has an internet connection has access to our materials and our efforts. It is a means to make our voices heard and to recruit more voices.

Everyone that frequents this site has visions of making their voice heard and making their vote count. Individually our voices are lost in the crowd noise. And even with our dismal lack of voter turnout, there were still more than 100 million votes cast in the last presidential election. It is difficult to know that your vote counted when it constitutes such a small part of the total vote. Political parties make a difference in the outcomes of elections by pooling the votes of like-minded individuals. Political candidates exercise power because each supporter transfers a portion of their individual power to the candidate. Coalitions gain power by pooling the individual powers of their members.

Free Republic can exercise the power of a coalition through uniting behind either common candidates or common issues or both. By acting as a unit, we can multiply our political effectiveness considerably. By recruiting and enlarging or attracting new members or supporters, we can multiply our effectiveness even more. We have proved that we can be effective. Ask the House managers and other members of the House how Clinton came to be impeached in spite of all the efforts of the media to prevent it.

We are approaching another election in a few months. Traffic on this site will increase progressively as we get closer to election day. Our political clout and power will increase exponentially as our viewing numbers increase. No matter what anyone wishes, the polls will be relatively close and the outcome of the election uncertain until the polls are closed. We will only have a good idea of the outcome when the exit polls and returns begin to come in. Before Election Day, the closer the polling data and the more uncertain the outcome of the election, the more our votes and our voices will matter. The more unified we are leading up to the election, the more our voices will be heard, and the more our votes will be courted.

We will have zero influence on Democratic voters or candidates. Any efforts directed at Democratic candidates will be a complete waste of our time and resources. Almost all directed at Democratic votes will have the same sad results. But our efforts directed at Republican voters and candidates can have a tremendous impact on the election and more importantly on the campaign leading up to the election. And surprisingly, our efforts in this election could have an even greater impact on the election of 2004.

FreeRepublic has the power within its grasp to achieve its mission and change the course of history. Organization, delegation, and unity of purpose are the keys to success. On another thread, I have offered what I believe to be one solution to the problem. There may be others. That is what the mission of this forum is about. Let's Roll!


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To: Bella_Bru
Take heed of what? Do these states have record numbers of fornication law violations going to court every year?

Why must you consistently linger on the subject of fornication?

201 posted on 07/06/2002 7:20:08 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: FF578
One of the best ways to evaluate a FReeper's posts is by looking at who they stir up - you're doin' great - you're lancing the poisonous thinkboils of the worst of the worst...
202 posted on 07/06/2002 7:22:13 PM PDT by 185JHP
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To: FF578
"I am an LEO."

Meter Maid??????

redrock

203 posted on 07/06/2002 7:23:18 PM PDT by redrock
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To: Bill D. Berger
but I see no point in debating someone like you.

That's it...Stay in your little Conspiracy Kook World. Keep thinking they're out to get us all...Stay in the building while it burns...Just because David told you too. Then blame "The Man", of course.

204 posted on 07/06/2002 7:31:18 PM PDT by Johnny Shear
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To: cascademountaineer
"Anarchocapitalists" is a good term for one of the more toxic forms of 'tarianism - greed - shameless, brazen, and malignant. The other way they sink even lower than the average leftist is selfishness. The nexus is clear. The LP's attack on Bob Barr is germane.
206 posted on 07/06/2002 7:33:36 PM PDT by 185JHP
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To: FF578
i also agree with most everything in the constitution party platform. i am, in fact, a constitutional conservative.

i am opposed to abortion as a means of birth control and, certainly, in most circumstances. however, i do not believe there should be a law prohibiting it. i think there are many situations where terminating a pregnancy would be a painful, but understandable option. for example, were i to be violently raped by a mentally retarded, genetically defected, diseased person and have the misfortune of becoming pregnant, i would NOT want to carry that pregnancy to term and i would NOT want anyone forcing me to do so. i believe abortion is an issue that cannot be that black and white.

at any rate, it's still my belief that the federal government should have no say so in this most personal issue.
207 posted on 07/06/2002 7:38:55 PM PDT by christine
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To: usconservative
One problem we have is that even though we've had a majority of Republicans at times in the Senate, there's never been a majority of conservative Republicans - there's always been enough soft-horned RINOs to side with the more overt leftists. I'm not defending Lott, but he is a compromise leader (sic). Lott is as far to the right as the "weevils of evil" will tolerate att.
209 posted on 07/06/2002 7:42:54 PM PDT by 185JHP
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To: B. A. Conservative
I guess things aren't working out all that well at the "new" free speech web site, huh? You had to come over here and trash FR. Again.
210 posted on 07/06/2002 7:57:28 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: philman_36
LOL!
211 posted on 07/06/2002 7:58:14 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Doc On The Bay
Doc...

My revolution??? Cannot say I understand where you were going with that statement.

212 posted on 07/06/2002 7:58:20 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: Howlin
Clarence said something about "scorned" once. Maybe that applies here as well?
213 posted on 07/06/2002 8:01:39 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Bella_Bru
The word "fornication" means illicit sex (outside of marriage) and was used by society, correctly, for thousands of years. Also, God uses it in condemning this as sexually immoral behavior. When I was growing up we called fornication "sleeping around," or "slutty." In the '60's, it became fashionable (for lack of a better word) to call fornication "making love." I'm curious...what do you call it?
214 posted on 07/06/2002 8:01:49 PM PDT by viaveritasvita
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To: jammer
I wasn't a moron newbie either; I know what you mean. There do seem to be many more liberal disruptors than there used to be. I started reading it everyday back in 1997. I found it off the whitewater link from Drudge. It was pretty neat back then, I even enjoyed some of the tin foil hat stuff from time to time! I miss some of the people who were regular posters from back then too. I still like it though, disruptors or no.
215 posted on 07/06/2002 8:01:58 PM PDT by DBtoo
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To: Howlin
Can you please explain where B.A. is "trashing FR"????

It seemed to be a fairly constructive article.

redrock

216 posted on 07/06/2002 8:04:31 PM PDT by redrock
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To: Camber-G
Not having screennames would mean risk - greater risk than insulting invective from nihilistic depraved knotheads.
217 posted on 07/06/2002 8:16:53 PM PDT by 185JHP
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To: Revel
Dream on. probably 40,000 of those are no longer with us for one reason or another. Do you ever even check this out. It is not hard. Go to your home page and at the top it will give your user #. Change it one at at time. You will see that Many accounts have been deleted. Then for the ones that still do exist then do a "FIND IN FORUM". You will see that most say "NO POSTS". In other words that is an in active freeper. Some have died...And many don't take to well to FR's leap away from its original purpose to restore the constitution. We WERE NOT a Republican cheer leading group in the begining. Not even close!

Geez, you're being positive.

Look at this, most FReepers do not even post. There are a lot more Lurkers than there are FReepers, I know because I was Lurker for months before I dared to post. I assume that you did the same. Free Republic had a profound influence on the election of 2000, and if it was not for our effort, Al Gore will be President today, no doubt.

That was the first time that I realized that we became a force to reckon with and that we are here to stay! Look at where we are now, and compare it back in 1998. Boy, what a big difference. This community will only grow larger and have more influence to change America for good in the next couple of years.

Maybe I'm just young and idealistic, but I'm optimistic. You should be too, hey what more can we lose? We already lost much ground to the Left, and it is time for us to counterattack!

218 posted on 07/06/2002 8:23:05 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: 185JHP
I know what you mean ... and that's what I mean about FR being a totally "open" forum. The names that people call one another under cover of internet anonymity I bet they would never call one another face to face.

Even though it can be alot of fun to read (sometimes), alot of real issues get bogged down in mis-guided witticisms from people who think they're alot funnier than they really are.

I'm just thinking that the person who posted this thread would maybe enjoy another forum also where people had to be a little more "visible" to one another. I might also, and I bet $1,000,000 that in general the comments would be alot more civil.

219 posted on 07/06/2002 8:30:32 PM PDT by Camber-G
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To: FF578
No man is permitted to corrupt the morals of the people; secret poison cannot be thus disseminated.

1. This ruling was given by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, not the US Supreme Court. I hope that the US Supreme Court has never given such a ruling. The reason I make this point is an important one: Federal Power versus State Power. The States may, to some degree, enforce their morality on the citizenry, IMO, and may exert even more approbation as the level of government grows increasingly local, with individual communities possessing the greatest influence over individuals in the realm of moral norms.

How can I, a Constitutionalist, espouse such a belief? Because governments, as they become more local, become more reflective of the will of individual people. Also, individuals who disagree with a moral code in one community can move to a different community where different morals are held...eventually finding his place. The *fundamental* rights are upheld by the US Constitution, which permits States, Cities, Townships, and communities to exercise their moral codes (so long as the Constitution itself is not violated). That, IMO, is the way the Founding Fathers, being themselves divided on how best to worship the Almighty, felt it ought to be.

The Federal Government was supposed to stay out of religious matters entirely, leaving that to local governments where people could more directly effect the morals they felt right and comfortable with.

2. The world of the 18th Century, and even the 19th Century, would be considered intolerable by many living in the US today. The Puritans, especially, lived a lifestyle that was very strict and unyeilding. Whether God especially approved of the Puritans or not, he did give us Free Will and that extended, to some degree, to how individuals chose to worship Him. To put it a different way, God didn't seem to expect us to all worship him in exactly the same manner or he would've made us all exactly the same.

3. The Government of today is not the Government of the past. It can no longer be trusted, even so much as the Founding Fathers trusted it (which wasn't much at all). Do you *really* think that if you made the Government the sole or most potent arbitor of morality that it would settle on a morality you agreed with, or that Christians as a whole agreed with? No. Governments are about power and domination, and will only approve those moral practices which further their bid for more power and domination.

Even if I thought that if the government were given limitless power to enforce a moral code and to use it wisely (which will never happen), I would not agree to give it such power. That is because morality and goodness come from within, usually based on *examples* from without. Force may, on the surface, bring about good actions, but they would be for the wrong reasons, and shallow. While Man was told to judge a person based on actions, God judges based on what is within a person's heart.

In short, I believe that the People are too corrupt to willingly revert to Christian behavior. The government is too corrupt to be trusted to pressure people to good acts, but is rather more likely to itself perpetrate evil acts with whatever power we give it. Our style of government cannot survive long when the people are corrupt, and so our government will change, in actuality if not on paper. That is what we have been seeing happen for some time now, and what is going to continue in the future.

The citation you have given is from a time long past, dead and gone and never to come again in our lifetimes, and probably not in the lifetimes of any now living, if ever.

You cannot use the government to overcome the will of the people, especially when it is nominally run by the people.

Tuor

Give me liberty or give me death.

220 posted on 07/06/2002 8:31:42 PM PDT by Tuor
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