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Harry Versus the Hobbit ( religious reaction )
University of Chicago Divinity School ^ | JUNE 27, 2002 | Paul V.M. Flesher

Posted on 06/29/2002 6:02:46 AM PDT by maquiladora

With the recent release of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone on video and DVD, it is an apt moment to review the religious reaction to last fall's two major film releases, the Harry Potter movie and the Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring. The key religious issue in both movies is the role magic and witchcraft play in the stories, and the presence of wizards as main characters. Is it acceptable for Christians to enjoy these entertaining stories when the Bible forbids witchcraft and links it to sin and demons?

With regard to Harry Potter, it is not surprising that different Christian groups disagreed. Mainstream Protestants did not think the question was worth addressing; the story was a fantasy, after all, and a fairly innocuous one at that. Evangelicals were divided on the question. A column at the popular religious Web site Beliefnet.com emphasized that Harry was about goodness and love overcoming hatred and evil. The more traditional Christianity Today argued that the story led people toward sin.

It was the fundamentalists who came out solidly against Harry, holding that it encouraged children to think about magic and to incorporate it into their play. This in turn would lead them toward witchcraft and deeper sin. So, it was surprising that some of the most vocal anti-Harry groups came out in favor of Lord of the Rings. Campus Crusade for Christ and Focus on the Family even went so far as to create Web pages to help Christians understand and enjoy the film.

Why the apparent double standard? Both films make extensive use of magic, witchcraft and wizards. Spells, potions and other occult acts appear throughout both stories. Their general plot lines are similar, focusing on evil wizards who want to take over the world, and who are successfully defeated by good wizards.

In his recent essay, "Harry and the Evangelicals," Richard Peace argues that the difference lies not in the stories but in the authors. J.R.R. Tolkein, who wrote The Lord of the Rings, was a committed Catholic whose close friend, C.S. Lewis, was an author popular in religious circles. Tolkein's comment that the book was "a fundamentally religious work" has strengthened the book's Christian credentials. By comparison, J.K. Rowling, author of the Harry Potter series, is a Presbyterian who has kept her religious beliefs out of the public view. Rumors of Rowling's childhood play at being a witch and making potions with sticks have weighed against her. In the fundamentalist view, Peace states, these clues to each author's character make the difference.

Another difference lies in the intended audience of the two works. Harry Potter appeals to a younger audience that may not understand clearly the boundaries between reality and fantasy, and are thus particularly impressionable. The Lord of the Rings is for a more mature audience that has a stronger understanding that imaginary worlds are simply that, imaginary. Tie to this the observation that Harry lives in "our" world; that Harry, his friends, and even Hogwarts exist in modern-day Great Britain. By contrast, The Lord of the Rings takes place in a totally different time and place with no identifiable links to the real world. Thus the story aimed at the younger audience goes further to confuse the distinction between reality and imagination, while the story for mature audiences reinforces the difference between them.

In the end, however, I think it is Harry Potter's newness that works against his story in conservative and fundamentalist circles. The Lord of the Rings has been around for half a century and has had time to become a "classic." Harry Potter is new -- a fad, perhaps. Given the famously ambivalent relationship fundamentalists of all stripes have with modern society and culture -- embracing their media while rejecting many of their messages -- we should not be surprised to find them rejecting this new fantasy world while embracing Tolkein's old familiar one.

Paul V. M. Flesher is director of the Religious Studies Program at the University of Wyoming. This piece appeared in the June 2 edition of the University of Wyoming's weekly e-publication Religion Today.


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Religion; TV/Movies; The Hobbit Hole
KEYWORDS: lordoftherings
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1 posted on 06/29/2002 6:02:46 AM PDT by maquiladora
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To: HairOfTheDog
Ring Ping
2 posted on 06/29/2002 6:03:23 AM PDT by maquiladora
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To: ecurbh
ACCKK!! Wasn't this covered in depth a few months ago?
3 posted on 06/29/2002 6:24:03 AM PDT by billbears
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To: maquiladora; billbears
I think you have upset billbears this morning!

Ecurbh is out for a while, moving. He will not hear your ping....

The Hobbits will see this on their own, probably, but I don't about the well-wishers and distant relations!
4 posted on 06/29/2002 6:38:18 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Didn't realize that about ecurbh. Pinged him because he was the one that always pinged me. Hope his move goes well. As for this, what always catches me about this argument, besides the religious issue, is the one about the age group it is aimed at. Remembering that critics panned Tolkien in the late 30s and that the book was aimed at the same age Potter is, what does that say about education in the past 60 years?
5 posted on 06/29/2002 6:55:20 AM PDT by billbears
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To: billbears; JenB
Yes, we don't know what to do without our ping king.

I haven't read the Potter books, but are you saying they are not as "grown up" in their writing? That could be. We shall se what Jen says!

I don't obsess over the religious issue, because I think the idea of the evils of "magic" are overblown fears out of our past when there was more belief in the actual ability of witches to cast "spells" on people. The idea, and the threat, are fantasy, I think.
6 posted on 06/29/2002 7:04:13 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
They aren't as grown up; well, they're aimed at, IMO, a higher level than The Hobbit, but much lower than LotR. For most kids, anyway; I read LotR at 11 and was ready for it. They certainly aren't as deep as LotR, though there are moments, particularly in the third book, where the author comes very close to something very, very good.
7 posted on 06/29/2002 7:13:39 AM PDT by JenB
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To: maquiladora; HairOfTheDog; billbears; JenB
Can't figure out whether I hope this thread turns into a religious "train wreck" argument or just fades away...

I read and enjoyed all the books with my daughter who loves them, I concur with Jen's assessment.

8 posted on 06/29/2002 7:29:26 AM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: Sam Cree
Well, if you decide what you want, I can try to cooperate... I missed all the Potter train wreck threads, so I would like to see one. What are the hot buttons I could push to help if you decided it should go that way?
9 posted on 06/29/2002 7:34:03 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
While I have read the Harry Potter books and really enjoyed them, The Lord of the Rings trilogy is the best piece of fiction ever written, imo.
10 posted on 06/29/2002 7:46:44 AM PDT by mtngrl@vrwc
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To: mtngrl@vrwc
I like your taste!
11 posted on 06/29/2002 7:48:16 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
I'm really having trouble making FR work this morning, it's the sludgiest I've ever seen it.

I'd think all it takes is for some of the crusaders to notice this thread, otherwise just defending Harry Potter ought to do it...didn't mean to imply that what I want should be any sort of guiding principle...

12 posted on 06/29/2002 8:00:33 AM PDT by Sam Cree
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hehehehe... For what it is worth... I think your sludgy problem is local.... I am not noticing any slowdown at all!
13 posted on 06/29/2002 8:06:57 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Morning Hair!

Sorry if I've ruffled a few feathers with this post, but I thought it had some interesting points.
I know that the HP v LOTR saga has been threaded to death in the past, but there isn't much LOTR news out there at the moment...

Oh yeah, saw a report on TV last night, ultra-early Oscar predictions. TTT, Minority Report and Gangs Of New York were tipped as strong contenders for Best Picture.

14 posted on 06/29/2002 8:08:29 AM PDT by maquiladora
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To: maquiladora
Oh I thought a spot of trouble would be nice! I am feeling a bit spunky this morning. There aren't really any ruffled feathers! - Much as I try... hehehehe
15 posted on 06/29/2002 8:11:57 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: mtngrl@vrwc
While I have read the Harry Potter books and really enjoyed them, The Lord of the Rings trilogy is the best piece of fiction ever written, imo.

I agree. The Lord of The Rings is one of the best works of fiction I've ever read. As for Harry Potter, well I did manage to read the first chapter of the first book once. I read it out of sheer curiosity. It seemed okay, not that you can tell much from one chapter though. It wasn't really my cup of tea, but it seemed entertaining.
If I was 12 again, I would have loved it.

16 posted on 06/29/2002 8:15:55 AM PDT by maquiladora
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To: HairOfTheDog
Hey, what does the TTT countdown stand at now?
17 posted on 06/29/2002 8:18:21 AM PDT by maquiladora
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To: maquiladora
171 days, 16 hours, 39 minutes!


18 posted on 06/29/2002 8:21:06 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Thanks!

171 days...it's too long to wait.

19 posted on 06/29/2002 8:24:05 AM PDT by maquiladora
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To: maquiladora
Well, it is something like 535 days, 16 hours and 31 minutes till Return of the King...


20 posted on 06/29/2002 8:28:55 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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