Posted on 06/06/2002 9:57:11 PM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99
Dear Mr. Robinson,
I have been a loyal member of the Free Republic since before the 2000 election. I have been a Conservative since the early days of Clinton. When I found this site, I thought "Thank God, people who think like me." I have continued to think this until the more recent days. Now, it seems that there are threads left and right bashing our President.
Why? There are things the President has done which I don't agree with but my loyality still lies with him. I am not sure if these "Bush-Bashers" fail to see the reality that with politics comes comprimise or it is something worse. I feel there is a cancer in the Free Republic. Some are eating their own.
I feel that some of these people are members of the dreaded democratic underground disguised as disgruntled conservatives. They are only here to stir up trouble. What's worse, they are doing just that. I am not sure what I think you should do.
As a conservative, I believe in our moral code but I also realize the reality of politics. I back our President but if he were doing something unsavory (like lying under oath,) I could not support him. This is unlike the left's clintonista dogma. What President Bush is doing is not betraying the conservative cause. He is using politics to confound the left. Those who do not understand this are either leftists themself or unable to separate themselves from their zealousness.
This is your show. You choose who gets to be a member and who does not. Those who break your rules are banished from the kingdom. I am not discouraging free speech, but this is free speech in your forum. These Bush-Bashers are brining us down. When this infighting happened in 1992, Bill Clinton got elected. let's not let that happen again.
Yours,
Big Guy and Rusty 99
If your going to hold Bush to what he stated, such as his uniter pledge, why not hold him to other things he stated?
Many of us are simply asking for him to follow through with what he stated. There is nothing that precludes him from being a uniter as well as a Conservative. Nothing. Americans support Israel. Bush and Co. do not. Do you not remember Bush saying we stand beside anybody who fights terrorism? Then he turns around and practically stabs Israel in the back.
As for fighting a war, it's turning into Vietnam. We have Special Forces running around in caves looking for people who can blend right into the population. There is no end in sight. It's practically turning into a nation-building, and we are even wagining hearts and minds campaigns. Not exactly part of the Bush/Powell Doctrine. But I will reserve final judgement, for all I know, this Arab Yugoslavia may turn out okay and end up being a very staunch ally in the region, which we dearly need.
Not a good answer, "bias against the government". And a terrible thread. You must know JimRob's personal feelings about Bush, better than I, since I don't recall him giving a public opinion on this. Who would you ask to remove *him*, if he makes a comment that doesn't agree with your opinion?
"Eight years of Clinton crookery were preceeded by TWELVE years of Reagan/Bush -- just when does your "quite some time" start anyway? Clinton was obviously able to turn the big ship on a dime, so ...."
Been saying that for a while myself. Keep it up. That's one of MANY fall-back excuses used by those who Know they've been conned.
Sorry Laz, I think you;re dead wrong on this one, the Moderator system could be the biggest boon ever for FR.
I propose a system where people can view deleted posts and threads, for a fee.
Call it a "Platinum Membership", or a "True Conservative Peep Show", and charge an additional fee, above and beyond the usual yearly donation for the service.
I'm not the only one that feels this way either.
Jim, you could double FR's cash flow with this idea, and who knows? Hello FreeRepublic TV!!!!
Give it some thought.
Luis
No -- Dole claimed it was now "his turn" and as such, the GOP was doomed to lose to a corrupt fake. Perhaps if the party and the party faithful did a little less, "Well, he's better than a Democrat" and a little more encouraging true conservatives, people who do more than pay lip service to the agenda, then the agenda might actually make some headway.
Pitting Bush against Gore is making the wrong comparison -- we ought to be asking what's the difference between Bush and McCain. What is there any different than what we would have had with a McCain administration at this point?
What we can and do know for certain is that the slippery slope we must at all costs avoid is that of appointing or allowing a certain body within the whole to legislate who is being sincere and who is being facetious.
Once we, the Constitutional Conservatives, start off down that seductive path, we are on the road to Stalinistic tyranny, and we owe it to ourselves, our country, our brave dead and our unborn generations to select prudence over expediency.
A vacuous argument should be a good debator's most fervent wish answered, as it offers up sitting ducks for them to knock down with alacrity. Don't ever fear the "Bush Bashers."
Slam them with a grossly superior response, and we'll be just fine.
For some of us "Bush-bashers," our political loyalty lies with the founders and the Constitution they gave us.
"I back our President but if he were doing something unsavory (like lying under oath,) I could not support him."
He swore an oath before God and the people of this nation that he would uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States. He lied. By signing unconstitutional legislation he has not upheld the Constitution. By refusing to pursue the crimes of the Clinton administration he has failed to defend the Constitution.
"What President Bush is doing is not betraying the conservative cause. He is using politics to confound the left."
Says you. Bush is not betraying the conservative cause because the conservative cause has been defined down. So-called "conservatives" never stand their ground on principle. They go along with the "conservatives" in power so as to not rock the boat. If they had stood their ground when Bush signed Campaign Finance Reform, the Patriot Act, the Farm Bill or the $26 billion increase in education spending, they would have been branded as Bush-bashers by people like you. But good little conservatives are supposed to just go along with Bush because he's a brilliant political strategist trying to confound the left. Did you ever stop to think for one second that he might actually believe in some of the leftist things he has supported?
Expect it to be deleted.
Great post.
There are many where it certainly is possible. Its just that those who are dispointed in Bush are not seeing them.
Call it a "Platinum Membership", or a "True Conservative Peep Show", and charge an additional fee, above and beyond the usual yearly donation for the service.
I'm not the only one that feels this way either.
Jim, you could double FR's cash flow with this idea, and who knows? Hello FreeRepublic TV!!!!
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