Freeoples Thread 307

[Mo1]

I can't believe I spent so much time arguing today

LOL .. I can relate and now I am so far behind on my house work .. oh heck I'll do it after dinner

Gotta go .. BBL

[null and void]

there comes a time to give up trying to take care of everyone yourself and to have faith.

I think that just might have been Ratty's whole point...

[null and void]

What was it Al Bundy said when Peg was telling him what to say to an old flame that showed up:

"Just tell her I've ruined you for other women."

"Well, that's true."...

[gratefulwharffratt]

I think that just might have been Ratty's whole point...

I HATE it when you steal my best lines.

Don't you have some wafer to etch??

[null and void]

Not today, I have designs...

[Darlin']

Oh, Nully, I'm so sorry. You will mend, everyone does eventually. :)

[ValerieUSA]

My whole point is that if society can protect property rights with laws, it can protect the right to life, too. It's wrong to steal, and government enforces that morality. The "drugs are my choice" crowd lures kids into thinking that "rights" are right and parental infringement on their rights is wrong. My kids have only one parent telling them that drug use will harm them, while people of all ages and purposes (people who don't love them) telling them drugs are fun and cool no problem and that they are much smarter than mom and can decide for themselves. Mom is just a Pharisee.

Sometimes I want to tell them to SHUT UP! and just look at the damage they are unwittingly advocating.... but instead I try to have a reasonable discussion and not call anyone names.

[gogeo]

Val, you're fighting a righteous battle. You too, Mo.

[gratefulwharffratt]

Sometimes I want to tell them to SHUT UP! and just look at the damage they are unwittingly advocating.... but instead I try to have a reasonable discussion and not call anyone names.

Sometimes I want to tell the Collectivists to SHUT UP! and just look at the damage they are unwittingly advocating.... but instead I try to have an unreasonable discussion and to call everyone names.

[gogeo]

Ratty, I think you've been indulging in that which you advocate.

[gratefulwharffratt]

Val, you're fighting a righteous battle. You too, Mo.

Yes, you Ladies ARE fighting the good fight.

But the Gov't trampling all over the Constitution is NOT going to make your job any easier, no matter how good their intentions.

[ValerieUSA]

Hi gogeo --- enjoying your endless winter in Washington?

[gogeo]

With rights come responsibilities.

Do you believe that drug use is a "victimless" crime?

[gratefulwharffratt]

I think you've been indulging in that which you advocate.

Ruh-Roh! Was it the slurred speech, or the bloodshot eyes??

Surely it wasn't anything that I said, was it?? All of that was as logical as can be.

[gogeo]

It seems that way, Val. It's that time of year when the sun shines long enough between showers toi make the grass grow, but not long enough to dry so it can be mowed.

[gratefulwharffratt]

Do you believe that drug use is a "victimless" crime?

If the 'victim' is at home and does not enfringe on the rights of anyone else, then yes. Especially if he or she produces that drug on their own property.

I hope you aren't going to try the "guilt about the cost of their insurance and healthcare to society" angle...

Now, drug ABuse usually has victims extending beyond the user,

[gogeo]

Ratty, usually your posts are a showcase of incisiveness and logic.

[null and void]

Is that the same Ratty the rest of us are thinking of???

[ValerieUSA]

And I don't dare let down my guard in this battle because I have to fight it all alone. There is no "We the people" - there's just me, the individual, against the world. Collectivism happens. Just not for me. It's a world thing.

[null and void]

Idiots will be idiots. They can't help it. It is in their genes. In the long run the best we can hope for is they take themselves out of the gene pool early and well, with minimal damage to the rest of us.

Your kids are not idiots, I expect they will straighten out. With the parenting they have had their chances are very good. But, it may take having someone the know very messily removing themselves from the gene pool to drive the message home...