[JenB]

Ok, I understand what you're saying then. Denethor's a dinosaur - he can't change, he can't even release power to those more capable of using it. He's very selfish - look at him, commiting suicide before his city has fallen, trying to take his last son with him. I don't despise him, but he's not a hero, by any means. Perhaps in a peaceful time he would never have shown his failings, but in difficult times, we see people for what they are, as someone's already said. I don't like what I see in Denethor.

[TigerTale]

in difficult times, we see people for what they are, as someone's already said.

I appreciate Bill Bennett's phrase (not original with him, I'm sure):

"War is the crucible of our character."