Even an adequate patriot ought to be able to see that evil cannot ever be used to conquer evil, only replace it.
I believe that at the Council of Elrond, Boromir just wasn't convinced the ring was evil. Isildur died before it could corrupt him, Boromir never actually saw what it did to Smeagol, Bilbo and Frodo had the ring for years and they looked all right. Only when it tried to corrupt him, did he believe.
I believe that at the Council of Elrond, Boromir just wasn't convinced the ring was evil. Isildur died before it could corrupt him, Boromir never actually saw what it did to Smeagol, Bilbo and Frodo had the ring for years and they looked all right. Only when it tried to corrupt him, did he believe.
His best trait is his devotion to his people and city. Unfortunately this is also his downfall. There is a sense, in Tolkien, that what we most want is the thing that is most dangerous to us. Frodo originally wants only to live in the Shire; had he remained there after all that had happened to him, who knows what torment he might have gone through. We don't really need to spell out how bad Gollum's desire for the Ring was for him. In Silmarillion Feanor's desire for the silmaril wreaks havoc on Middle-Earth. Boromir is another example of this principle. He wants to save his city, so he doesn't really fight the call of the Ring, I think. It is playing on his greatest weakness.
HI HOTdog...Thank you for posting the account about the breakfast with Dom. Have been wrapped up in family life for the last two days. Went out and got my DVD from Toys R Us...question: did anyone else here get theres from that store...and did they get ALL four posters for one DVD? I have a reason for asking this, but I wanted to find out the truth before mouthing off...(as I am wont to do...)
I am a bit curious as to why you included the Directors/producers/promoters as endorsing this view of LoTR through a hippy's eyes in your post over at the Green Dragon... I haven't heard anyone else endorse this view, and I have a feeling a couple of Dom's other comments would cause them to make a frowning face! In other words, I think Dom was talking a little loose here, and only talking for himself.
As per article... you see, the thing about the internet is...it's text...and the thing about expressing emotion is...through text...and the thing about not quite getting the right emotion expressed is a bit of a challenge, especially when one is simply throwing out a comment in order to join in on the general conversation. So please understand, I am not RILED about it, but as I expressed in the other thread, some of the statements that I have heard the various people associated with the film, (not just some of the actors) and yes, even among fans themselves, about the use of drugs in reference to writing the books, hit a nerve. And its a nerve that has become all too sensitive to the cultural influences of the past 30 years. Sorry, but I am in my mid-thirties. I remember the 70s the first time around...and all the silliness that came with it.
and no, I do not have 'actual' documentation of each and every one of the above mentioned people (writers/directors/etc)...they have ALL been EXTREMELY true to the spirit of Tolkien's work. You are correct in gently pointing out that I should not make blanket statements like that. My apologies.
However, when director/actors/etc proudly proclaim their undying love for John Lennon, the little alarm bells go off. How could they POSSIBLY favor *HIM* over Paul McCartney, the TRUE musician of the group???? GAH. The correlations that spring up in my mind are unavoidable...
John Lennon=drugs=so-called 'creativity'=unkempt hair and beard=hippie.
Sorry, but I remember all of that too. I was SO GLAD when Duran Duran came out with their beautiful faces and beautiful hair cuts. The slap in the face the 70s needed.
Just my humble opinion!
HI HOTdog...Thank you for posting the account about the breakfast with Dom. Have been wrapped up in family life for the last two days. Went out and got my DVD from Toys R Us...question: did anyone else here get theres from that store...and did they get ALL four posters for one DVD? I have a reason for asking this, but I wanted to find out the truth before mouthing off...(as I am wont to do...)
I am a bit curious as to why you included the Directors/producers/promoters as endorsing this view of LoTR through a hippy's eyes in your post over at the Green Dragon... I haven't heard anyone else endorse this view, and I have a feeling a couple of Dom's other comments would cause them to make a frowning face! In other words, I think Dom was talking a little loose here, and only talking for himself.
As per article... you see, the thing about the internet is...it's text...and the thing about expressing emotion is...through text...and the thing about not quite getting the right emotion expressed is a bit of a challenge, especially when one is simply throwing out a comment in order to join in on the general conversation. So please understand, I am not RILED about it, but as I expressed in the other thread, some of the statements that I have heard the various people associated with the film, (not just some of the actors) and yes, even among fans themselves, about the use of drugs in reference to writing the books, hit a nerve. And its a nerve that has become all too sensitive to the cultural influences of the past 30 years. Sorry, but I am in my mid-thirties. I remember the 70s the first time around...and all the silliness that came with it.
and no, I do not have 'actual' documentation of each and every one of the above mentioned people (writers/directors/etc)...they have ALL been EXTREMELY true to the spirit of Tolkien's work. You are correct in gently pointing out that I should not make blanket statements like that. My apologies.
However, when director/actors/etc proudly proclaim their undying love for John Lennon, the little alarm bells go off. How could they POSSIBLY favor *HIM* over Paul McCartney, the TRUE musician of the group???? GAH. The correlations that spring up in my mind are unavoidable...
John Lennon=drugs=so-called 'creativity'=unkempt hair and beard=hippie.
Sorry, but I remember all of that too. I was SO GLAD when Duran Duran came out with their beautiful faces and beautiful hair cuts. The slap in the face the 70s needed.
Just my humble opinion!